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The funny (read as annoying) thing about outgassing is that there are a whole bunch of variables that contribute to the start time and duration. This means that you can have your first clear coat on, and it looks great, so you do the second. Then the ambient temperature increases, or the relative humidity decreases, or the fates decide they don't like you anymore, whatever, and the outgassing starts. The only sure way to make sure that you've let it outgas sufficiently is to give it plenty of time
Is true.

Just because you've used laquer this way and it's worked before does not mean that it will always work. Ever painted a body with laquer without priming it first? Guess what- sometimes it works ok. Sometimes, it turns out great. But there is always the possibility that it won't. So, nearly everyone primes first before painting laquer. Same kind of deal here. So maybe you, or someone you know, has been able to get this to work-that doesn't mean it's a SAFE way to do it. When it decides to go wrong, it will go wrong. To me, it's always worth priming, and waiting a couple of weeks before clearcoating. I freaking hate to strip and start over.

If you can smell the paint on the body still, it definately isn't safe to cover it. Can't say it definately won't work- you may get lucky again and have it go ok. Want to risk it?
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Re: ACK what have I done!

my success ratio working with duplicolor paints has been 100% and that is with painting the body from start to finish in less than 24 hours
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Well it's in the CSC now, so I guess we'll see. I found a can of Testor's clear in my box, so I guess I'll give that a try instead anyway
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my success ratio working with duplicolor paints has been 100% and that is with painting the body from start to finish in less than 24 hours
I can second that, and I use Krylon primers underneath it all. But I'm cheap like that.
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MPWR: where do I get isopropal alcohol? Is that just normal rubbing alchohol? The CSC didn't seem to phase the duplicolor at all
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Re: ACK what have I done!

I've stripped a duplicolored car with brake fluid before, it didn't harm the putty or the glue but it did take some soaking. I ended up scraping off the paint because I'm impatient. And cheap.
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You can get isopropyl in any decent grocery store, in the first aid section. It is rubbing alcohol, but it will say isopropyl on the bottle, and the concentration. Get 99% if you can, 91% will do. It's really cheap, a bottle will run you $1 USD. While you're in the grocery store, go to the plastic storeage container section and get some of the largeish reusable/recylable storage containers. Glad makes a size that fits car bodies rather well. Isopropyl is highly volitile (evaporative), so it's best to keep it covered and let the body soak. If you get the 99% stuff, you don't have to wory about it geting weaker as it evaporates- as it's straight alcohol, the relative water content doesn't increase.

Yeah, you can use brake fluid instead, and it may not soften your putty work- but that depends alot on the putty itself. Alcohol is safer, and probably cheaper too (and less poisonous, and you don't have to find a safe way of disposing it!).
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Cool, the alcohol worked (although it was $3.99 for each bottle and I needed two bottles to fill enough of the container to cover the car, liar ) ... I was surprised at how well the paint just peeled right off, good stuff. It didn't take the primer off though, being that I was using tamiya primer, so now it's back in the CSC to get rid of that.... allllmost there
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