SCAMMER ALERT! DO NOT Buy from doug294!!!

[doug294]

What problems did you address right off? NONE! You later on mentioned that the turbo didn't fit on the manifold. I told you that it was probably due to them using two different T28 flanges.

About me suddenly mentioning the life time warranty. I pulled up my paypal history and got the e-mail addy from the place I bought it from and e-mailed them. They have not replied which is why I did not mention this earlier.

You say the turbo is not as described? How was this described? "I quickly removed the pictures and description". No I didn't..it was a list of parts and link to pictures. Want the pictures here ya go champ...







Oh and about the description. Here is a copy.

I have pieced together a complete turbo kit minus IC piping. All parts are brand new and never been used on any car except the injectors! (only one injector is shown, but have all four) The kit consist of:
Garrett T28 turbo (paid $450)
27"x6.5"x3" FMIC (paid $310)
Log style manifold (AC compatable) ($220)
Deltagate Waste gate (paid $190)
TurboSmart RFL blowoff vlave (paid $160)
Blue top DSM 450cc injectors (paid $120)
Custom mandrel bent stainless steel downpipe (also AC compatable) (paid $100)
Thats almost $1500 worth of new turbo supplies!

[doug294]

Here ya go. Here are a few more that were not in the ad.









Now I don't know about you, but from what I can see in those pictures the manifold doesn't look to "warped". I wish I could find some better pictures.

[doug294]

One last thing for now. You say he recieved it on 2/27. Then that means he has had it for 2 months and he just now finds out "oh, its warped". I call BS on this guy. Sounds like your friend is the scammer. And for your information FedEx wouldn't ship it because of an oil stain. They called after it sat there for a week and told me that they couldn't ship it because it was leaking oil which was actually only a stain from the header that I bought that came in that box. Yes I admit it was shipped 2 weeks late on my friends part do to me being out of town.

[1PhatCX]

Originally Posted by SiZ

How do you wreck a manifold without using it?!

prolly someone at the place fucked up and just welded continuosly. when u weld continuos, no matter how thick the material. it WILL warp. been there... done that. probably what happened, some people can see it with their eyes... some cant,

[doug294]

Oh yes, one other thing. You say you have not bought anything from me. Yes you did. You bought my 91 hatch pass side tail. You were the first person to buy anything from me.

[88ReX]

I'm wondering why the flange is cut, what looks like all the way through, on the inside runners. TO me that suggests something is a little off. Maybe I don't know everything about welding a flange but most that I have seen didn't need to be cut. It's possible that the manufacturer welded the two inside runners then welded the outside runners afterwards creating a warp/bow effect bc they don't line up.

Now considering that the warp makes it 1/4" off WOULD be noticable to the eye. However we still dont have pics from ami to show us exactly how visible this warp is and if it is indeed 1/4" off.

I would think that if its not too bad then it could probably be taken to a machine shop and milled to level the surface.

[1PhatCX]

Originally Posted by 88ReX

I'm wondering why the flange is cut, what looks like all the way through, on the inside runners. TO me that suggests something is a little off. Maybe I don't know everything about welding a flange but most that I have seen didn't need to be cut. It's possible that the manufacturer welded the two inside runners then welded the outside runners afterwards creating a warp/bow effect bc they don't line up.

Now considering that the warp makes it 1/4" off WOULD be noticable to the eye. However we still dont have pics from ami to show us exactly how visible this warp is and if it is indeed 1/4" off.

I would think that if its not too bad then it could probably be taken to a machine shop and milled to level the surface.

well thats a log style manifold, i've been thinking about making one myself, what it is, is the 2 inside pieces are a T pipe, then u have the 2 outside 90's. i know a place out here called boost motorsports sells everything to make ur own manifold which is what i'm doing, which is what i think this guy did but fucked up horribly and didnt distribute the heat evenly

[doug294]

Originally Posted by 1PhatCX

well thats a log style manifold, i've been thinking about making one myself, what it is, is the 2 inside pieces are a T pipe, then u have the 2 outside 90's. i know a place out here called boost motorsports sells everything to make ur own manifold which is what i'm doing, which is what i think this guy did but fucked up horribly and didnt distribute the heat evenly

She is saying it is a full 1/4" off though. That is plain to spot. Like I said to begin with. I have yet to see pictures of this so I don't see why she should have even made this post.

[amy@af]

here we go scammer....

Originally Posted by doug294

You say the turbo is not as described?

Originally Posted by doug294

I have pieced together a complete turbo kit minus IC piping. All parts are brand new and never been used on any car except the injectors! (only one injector is shown, but have all four)

you claim you and your friends had the parts in your hands many times. you never once mentioned the turbo didn't bolt to the exhaust mani. matter of fact your excuse is: "I told you that it was probably due to them using two different T28 flanges." something you told me AFTER it got here, AFTER i sent you a pm about it. you must be STUPID if you are going to sit here and claim you didn't notice this before you sent it....


must be why all the parts are sitting next to each other and not matched up in his pics.

i also notice none of your pics shows the side of the exhaust mani that meets up with the head...how convient for you.

both edges of the exhaust mani are warped. it is 100% impossible for my friend to have over torqued it.
a) never been installed
b) he would have to be incredible hulk to tighted the inside bolts so much to make the outside corners bow

one side:


other side is much worse:


closer pic:


the "new turbo" was previously used on another vehicle...this is a pic of my dirty finger after touching the inside:

notice: that was another side of a part that doug conviently didn't take a pic of.

whoever was the genious that installed that turbo crushed the threads on the exhaust side. yet another problem my friend has to deal with. you can see it easiest on the back post:




you should be thanking me for only requesting $150 back. you LIED and SCAMMED my friend!

[travagliante]

Um not trying to take sides but i can clearly see the poblem. You purchased the t28 flange and automatically assumed it was the right size/fitment. You figured that how could a company lie or sell bad parts. You never installed it on the turbo/manifold so you sold it as the correct flange automatically assuming that! Then when it was tested, bam! there is the problem!
I do understand taking a while to ship items. Life is busy. Heck for me i work full time and go to school full time and only have sundays off, so its hard for me to ship things. I believe kris hit pretty good on the knoch in the seller threads!

I understand both sides here and i think you both should just go in 1/2 way on a new flange, call it a day, make up, and get back to the good ole days!

[amy@af]

there is more than a flange problem. the other pics didn't pop up. i just fixed them.

it is the flange that is obviously off, exhaust mani that is warped, turbo that was used....all supposed to be 100% new perfect parts.

Originally Posted by doug294

I have pieced together a complete turbo kit minus IC piping. All parts are brand new and never been used on any car except the injectors! (only one injector is shown, but have all four)

[doug294]

Hey as far as I knew the turbo was brand new. Never stuck my finger inside and to me it looked new. As far as the turbo no matching up I never put them together to check. Held them seperately, but never matched all the parts up.

You asked how I "conv" didn't take puictures of the head side. Why would I?

Anyways, like I said I have contacted the place I got it from to see what they say. It looked straight to me, but your pictures show it off. You get all offensive and act like you are so pissed yet you just now post proof after posting the thread with none.

[Juicy05]

"I have pieced together a complete turbo kit minus IC piping. All parts are brand new and never been used on any car except the injectors!" doug294
And there is ovbiously buildup on the inside of the turbo

[amy@af]

Originally Posted by doug294

She is saying it is a full 1/4" off though. That is plain to spot. Like I said to begin with. I have yet to see pictures of this so I don't see why she should have even made this post.

as i posted up my pm's to you, i clearly stated that was your last chance to try and make things right, and if you didn't i was going to make a thread and post publically what happened. you sarcastically replied you would give a "30 day return policy". if you don't see why i made this post then maybe you should seek professional help about your disgusting attitude.


now go ahead and tell us again how you and all your many of friends were holding these parts that you didn't notice were dirty used, don't bolt up, and are warped...and how my friend over tightened the exhaust mani and my friend is trying to scam you.

[doug294]

And as stated right above you it looked new to me and I never stuck my finger in it.