13.1@106mph

[chexmixa]

Originally Posted by =OrangeZ=

lol we are not saying the engine is god .. we are just saying its pretty good for a 4cyl tunner car, its one thats often over looked alot of the time but really shouldnt be as it can run sold times with few mods, that guy is far from having ALOT of mods like you say its just a standard turbo kit with a supporting exhaust thats it basicly, i really dont see your point in compairing a V8 to a 4banger anyways not very logical as of course a modern V8 will be faster.. it should be its 2x the size

our engine isnt god and no it cant hold 500whp like some other stock "turbo ready" 4 cyl but it does a really good job for what it is a 4 cyl N/A engine

It is a pretty good tuner car. Only reason i made a reference to the LS1 is becuase you got a lil cocky and decided to call out Mr.Lous. Hey, i didn't want to bring up my car into this thread cause it is in no way related, but yes it can run 500whp on stock internals <insert bow here>

[Mr. Luos]

Has he taken a bunch of weight off that car??
Slicks would bump him into the 12's. Rather impressive.
How much more can that motor take , boost wise? I would think that is pushing it for the stock motor. Little more work though, and watch out.

[-Jayson-]

no i dont think he did any major weight reduction, if he did he didnt mention it. I would imagine he removed the spare tire and did simple things like that.

The engine is about the max you want to go on stock internals as far as boost. But he can do alot more to the engine before it needs to be rebuilt with stronger internals.

[dampachi]

haha...i never take the spare out when i race. what if i get a flat? And yeah..I bet theres a little disclaimer at the bottom of the page you're getting your information from that says "Mr. Cavy racer went on to make one more 13 second pass before his shit blew up. The end."

[CassiesMan]

It has more cylinders, you have a turbo, its a fair game.

[Mr. Luos]

Originally Posted by dampachi

And yeah..I bet theres a little disclaimer at the bottom of the page you're getting your information from that says "Mr. Cavy racer went on to make one more 13 second pass before his shit blew up. The end."

That I will doubt. With a very good tune, I am sure that car is pretty reliable.

The problem is that he is one car. Jayson and Orange Z are a couple of the S/C'd guys. Most the the J-Body crowd doesn't do anything for performance. Must be too much work for most of them or something.

[drftk1d]

damn, this is an EXACT repeat of the last thread, with the same shit said. let it lie...

[dampachi]

From my experiences cavaliers aren't reliable stock..throw some F/I on them and run them down the 1/4 mile to some low 13 second passes...and I can't see it lasting too long.

[chexmixa]

Originally Posted by dampachi

From my experiences cavaliers aren't reliable stock..throw some F/I on them and run them down the 1/4 mile to some low 13 second passes...and I can't see it lasting too long.

agreed

[carrrnuttt]

Not too shabby - but before you go blabbing about how this makes up for all the crap J-bodies get, consider that all-motor, street-legal Hondas are running that time, and better nowadays. And I'm not a big fan of Hondas (anymore).

What is it with Cavalier owners? Is it a persecution complex?

[=OrangeZ=]

the 2.4 are great engine as far as things not breaking on them its mostly everything else on the cavalier that will go first lol but for the most part they hold up really good, the 2.2 sohv engines are another story and they are the reasoning we get all the bad rap, besides if FI wasnt reliable dampachi then gm wouldnt have ever made a supercharger kit for the car...

o and by the way i was being sarcastic when i called out mr lous in the other forum but them things are kinda hard to see in text lol i ment no disrespect

also like jayson said the engine is usally maxed out around 10-13psi (depending on turbo size) on stock interals after that though the engine still has about another 30whp that can still be found else where like a built head and what not before anything starts to break

[=OrangeZ=]

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

Not too shabby - but before you go blabbing about how this makes up for all the crap J-bodies get, consider that all-motor, street-legal Hondas are running that time, and better nowadays. And I'm not a big fan of Hondas (anymore).

What is it with Cavalier owners? Is it a persecution complex?

first this is the cars stock engine any honda running this n/a on the street probley doesnt have its stock engine no more, secondly they probley put 5x the money into the engine do you know how much it cost to build a fast n/a car well its not cheap thats for sure and they are probably running 110 octain fuel on top of that lol but i do have to admit 12 and 13 second n/a cars are bad ass any brand

we are just trying to keep the view of things in the same class so if we could just compare simular setups in other cars that are 4cyl thats fine if ya wanna do that

compare the car for what its worth its a reliable 4 cyl N/A engine not a large V8

just thought i throw in that you can make these engines fast for all out N/A as well and most the stuff you can get straight from gm as the 2.3 and 2.4 parts are interswapable

we are not out to disrespect other peoples cars just to show you guys what ours can do as we know that not many people have seen something like this becuase up till now not many people wanted to invest in the j platform and not because the platform sucked but becuase everything was to expensive, now things have gone down options have gone up and we are startinng to see a boom in FI J-bodys

[chexmixa]

5k in mods on a honda to run 13s? mb if you include the new motor. tell me how much you spent to run 13s? Honestly i don't care about a cavalier that can run mid 14s its still a cavalier. I wont have to look out for em cause i am still gunna run faster. If anything you lost repect for your car. Alot of the J-bodies owners are very modest and don't care if someone knows they are fast or not. Bragging on the internet to try to get respect is gunna have the opposite affect.

Damn i was looking for this vid i saw a while back, it was this french vid of these guys trying to get a civic to die on them. First they tried just hitten the E-brake and putting a rock on the gas so see if bouncing off the revlimiter and doen a burnout would kill it but they gave up after a while. The tried putten bananas in the exhaust ports but the civ just shot them out on start up. Then they eventually drained the oil and replaced it with water and slammed on the gas. all the water evaporated out and it died after a good 10 mins of that. They put more water into the motor and it started right back up. They did bounced it off the rev limiter for another 10 mins tell it eventually died. I figured that would be a good movie to post considering we are talken about engine abuse.

But while i was searchen for that vid i found a have dec car vid site

http://www.streetracersonline.com/videos/

http://www.imvfilms.com/films.php

[youngvr4]

Originally Posted by -Jayson-

How many engines respond with 10HP per PSI?.

most turbocharged cars.

thats actually what most people go by 10hp per psi cause thats how most cars that are turbocharged respond to turning up the boost.

actually 10hp per psi is an average. its not that big of a deal.

there's honda's that do the same thing as this. regardless cool vid

[chexmixa]

Originally Posted by youngvr4

most turbocharged cars.

thats actually what most people go by 10hp per psi cause thats how most cars that are turbocharged respond to turning up the boost.

actually 10hp per psi is an average. its not that big of a deal.

there's honda's that do the same thing as this. regardless cool vid

jesus 10 hp per psi? that would leave me with 80 whp with no turbo