90 old cutlass ciera audio??

[dice daniels]

Nice design for the box/amp rack. Should be perfect for a sq system. with dual subs and amps you will have a nice looking setup too. It looks like you know what you want. The box will be easy to build. With a sealed box you will only have to worry about getting everything tight and making sure the cutout for your sub is pretty exact so that it does'nt have any leaks. The subs and amps you chose would work great if you ran it like this. I was thinking you only wanted a 1 sub setup. You have it under control. The only thing I would suggest would be to run a component "woofer/tweeter" setup up front in your cab somehow just because It greatly improves your sound quality. If the 3.5's are in your dash you should still have a place to mount a speaker in your front doors in alot of cars. They usualy include them in the design of the vehicle even if they dont use them. Sometimes there is a place directly infront of the unused speaker hole on the door pannel that looks like it could have been planed as a grill at one time and just not preferated to acomidate it. If you are handy with a sharp raisor knife you can create the grill and mount the component behind it. If you like the idea and do it you will notice that the plastic turns white where it is cut with the knife. To fix it you will need to run a lighter over the cuts and the white will disapear like magic.You wont even know they were cut out if you do a good enough job. It is just an option you may have. I'm not trying to be pushy with my ideas. It sounds like you have a good plan though.

[bumpinstang77]

why don't you quit screwin w/ that overpriced mainstream garbage and go with something much better from one of the companies i reccomended up there.

[ngsm13]

Originally Posted by bumpinstang77

why don't you quit screwin w/ that overpriced mainstream garbage and go with something much better from one of the companies i reccomended up there.

Ditto, you asked for help from those more experienced than you...so use it! peace

NG

[dice daniels]

TRUE,TRUE,TRUE. cant recomend something if we dont think its wourth buying. everyone has been giving you good advice. They know their crap. Why are you asking questions when you already have your own answers? If you want sq buy sq equipment. Nice box idea but the equipment makes the system. An installer would feel like an ass installing the crap you are wanting to buy. May even turn you away. Most installers put pride in their work.so Id start asking about one of the brands that we have recomended if you want answers. Cuz you have tereble taste in equipment.
It may work together but it's still half ass equipment. Stuff a fifteen year old would save up his paper route money to buy for his two hundread dollar starter car. How old are you buy the way? Either realy young, or realy old I'm guessing.

[mike5721947]

well im not wanting to run out and buy expensive equipment to throw into my first car. im wanting to get equipment i can learn from, im just wanting to be equal or just above my stock system, not way over the top. also i have set myself a budget not to go over $1500 for everything i want to put into the car ($1500 is the value of the vehicle, im not wanting to sink more money into the vehicle then it is worth)

also im looking at mainstream equipment because most of those brands you listed i dont think i will be able to find a dealer here in western canada, but i could be wrong with finding those brands here. i will be checking in the next week if any of those brand are carried by the audio store near here.

sorry if you think im wasting your time but i was wanting to get some questions answered and check on some things with other members of these wonderful forums.

[ngsm13]

Originally Posted by mike5721947

well im not wanting to run out and buy expensive equipment to throw into my first car. im wanting to get equipment i can learn from, im just wanting to be equal or just above my stock system, not way over the top. also i have set myself a budget not to go over $1500 for everything i want to put into the car ($1500 is the value of the vehicle, im not wanting to sink more money into the vehicle then it is worth)

also im looking at mainstream equipment because most of those brands you listed i dont think i will be able to find a dealer here in western canada, but i could be wrong with finding those brands here. i will be checking in the next week if any of those brand are carried by the audio store near here.

sorry if you think im wasting your time but i was wanting to get some questions answered and check on some things with other members of these wonderful forums.

Your local store will not carry the BRANDS THAT ARE BETTER THAN MAINSTREAM!!! Read the sites we listed, call for direct pricing...it's cheaper. peace

NG

[dice daniels]

first off, you can order almost anything into canada from the sites that are posted in these posts. Secondly, If you do have a $1500 budget and it doesnt include the cost of the car too, You can get one hell of one nice sq setup with that kind of money. Third, dont look at it as sinking money into one car. Do you leave your stereo system in your house when you move out of it? Hold onto the stock equipment you take out of it and put it back in when you get rid of the car.If you buy 1 nice setup you can transfer it from vehicle to vehicle and only have to invest in new peices and parts along the way if speakers sizes change or wires end up too short and what not. If you buy cheap equipment you might as well give it to whoever buys the car from you. It wont increase the value of the car by instaling a cheapo system. And just because it's your first system does'nt mean you need to start cheap. If you know how to read instructions you'll do just as good installing nice equipment as you would the mainstream equipment you're looking at. It is all pretty much the same no matter what you get. But you're not going to get high quality sound out of that mtx stuff. You'll just be paying for the name. You realy will be much happier with the equipment we have suggested. And you will pay alot less for it.

Mtx ,Pioneer,Kicker and so on are big names in car audio. They have nice equipment too but you'll be paying out the ass for it. Like 500 bucks and so on just for 1 good amp and 300 bucks for 1 good sub.The stuff you are looking at is their low grade equipment. It's made with cheap components and sold for a higher price than it is wourth. The name is all they need to sell it. A $100 mtx amp may say puts out 250 watts rms but you might be lucky to get 150 watts total out of it if not less. Their $99.95 subs may say they handle 200 watts but that will probably be peak power and rms will be down in the 75/100watt range. If you run them at 200 watts for a long period of time they will probably quit working. It is all made cheap and fast so it can rake in money from uneducated buyers. Dont be a victim of advertising.

[mike5721947]

ok well im wondering about a head unit, at this moment i am very happy with the unit in my mothers pathfinder (JVC) and am wondering about your thoughts on their head units.

i will try to see if i can get either the local audio store to order some subs and amps from some of the companies you guys listd or i will just try and get my parents to let me use there credit card if i pay them the money back.

the atlas 12" looks good and for 145 usd well ill have to limit myself to two

[dice daniels]

JVC makes some good decks. Panasonic is better in my opinion But you wont be doing too bad with JVC. Depends on what you get.

[ngsm13]

Originally Posted by dice daniels

JVC makes some good decks. Panasonic is better in my opinion But you wont be doing too bad with JVC. Depends on what you get.

I'd only touch JVC in extreme budget situations. I JUST put a JVC unit in my brother's car yesterday...good little unit for $90 shipped and plays mp3 too!

Alpine is my pick, check out their new bottom line HU this year...$150 from crutchfield with warranty! 9843 i believe?

NG

[mike5721947]

http://www.edesignaudio.com/product....=Specs&cur=CAD is that a 12" sub? whitch should i go with that one or the atlas?

[mike5721947]

well maybe the alpine CDE-9841 its $150 usd will suffice for what i am wantign to do (also the budget for the sound system isnt 1500, 1500 is what i dont want to go completely over in parts i put into the car so if i blow the engine in the car im just going to junk the car rather then go out and buy a rebuilt motor for $2000 or so.

[ponchonutty]

Originally Posted by dice daniels

.... but the equipment makes the system. An installer would feel like an ass installing the crap you are wanting to buy. May even turn you away. Most installers put pride in their work...... How old are you buy the way? Either realy young, or realy old I'm guessing........

What a nut you are. Equipment doesn't JUST make the system. There are plenty of knobs that think they can pay $5k on equipment slap it in their ride and have it sound awsome. Well, that just doesn't work. I preach this all the time. You gotta build the right enclosure for the equipment and the ride. You also have to use the right materials. None of this going to Lowes and getting marine grade plywood or particle board.

My installers and I don't mind installing other's shit. Granted, we'd like to install what we sell but that doesn't always work out. Yes, there are some stuff out there we'd rather not waste the time but as professionals, we do the best we can. Actually, we love making a $500 cracker jack system sound better than the punk with the self installed $5k system. Yes, we all pride ourselves in our work. If we didn't, we wouldn't be doing it. We can put just as much time and money into a "cheap" system as an expensive one.

If you were to answer your last question, my guess is that you gotta be younger than 25 because you don't sound too experienced in true audio systems.

[mike5721947]

im 16 and its my first car and first new generation sound system (last system i worked with was installing 6x9's in place of 5x7's in the rear of my fathers station wagon and installing a oem chrysler cd player into the dash inplace of the stock radio. i have no real experience with aftermarket cd players and subwoofers. but i can tell the differnece in good bass and an idiot playing his rap with the bass turned all the way up.

[bumpinstang77]

The install is 90% equipment is 10%.......I run panasonic if that means anything to you..... and for subs I'd get incriminator or RE ED isn't up to par IMO.