How to disable the speed governer/limiter?

[public]

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

and the other people being hurt is just bad luck.

Hurt someone in my family with your stupidity and I might show you what I think of you self-proclaimed right to race. And then, since I work in the E.R. I will give a free ride on the morgue cart. It's lots of fun, people do it all the time. Good Luck on NEVER making a mistake at speed.

btw-If you have a blown V8 why are you reading about our little cavi's?

[Classicrocjunkie]

Originally Posted by public

Hurt someone in my family with your stupidity and I might show you what I think of you self-proclaimed right to race. And then, since I work in the E.R. I will give a free ride on the morgue cart. It's lots of fun, people do it all the time. Good Luck on NEVER making a mistake at speed.

btw-If you have a blown V8 why are you reading about our little cavi's?

^^^ Good point

on that note..

[TunerAdept]

Originally Posted by public

Hurt someone in my family with your stupidity and I might show you what I think of you self-proclaimed right to race. And then, since I work in the E.R. I will give a free ride on the morgue cart. It's lots of fun, people do it all the time. Good Luck on NEVER making a mistake at speed.

btw-If you have a blown V8 why are you reading about our little cavi's?

threats lol, pick your fights bud, want my address to come back something like that up ill give it. i started looking in the cavy forum because i just got one, and i was looking into the performance of those little engines. and thanks for wishing the good luck , never hurts. besides, if racing were about luck, then you worry, but, it isnt.

[KustmAce]

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

threats lol, pick your fights bud, want my address to come back something like that up ill give it.

A little defensive are we? He wasn't picking a fight. He was offering to give you the same ride as the recently deceased, not put you there. Such an experience might straighten out your thinking a little bit.

There is a difference to racing with skill and racing with luck. Bumper to bumper racing at 200mph takes skill. Trapping at 170+mph in the quarter takes skill. Mashing the gas pedal when the light turns green really doesnt. Speed shifting and timing are all great too, but frankly, I wouldnt go bragging about my ungodly super human "skill" in either of those categories.

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

if you die street racing or kill someone street racing, you deserve to die for idiocy

So it takes the death or severe injury of someone else to make you realize that what your doing is stupid?

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

i personally have never even came close to getting in a wreck from racing

And is that because of your skill? Or has a bus just not pulled out in front of you yet? Or the pedestrian not paying attention, you just haven't come across him yet? What about the front tire of your car that unexpectedly blows at 70mph? Or you hit a bump in the road you didnt see and spin out of control across 3 lanes of traffic? Has none of that happened because of your immense street racing skill? Or because you "pick and choose your battles"?

I must say, I fail to see your logic in every statement you have made. Illegally street racing has EVRYTHING to do with luck. And no matter how good of a driver you think you are, there are a million things that you can not control, no matter how much you tell yourself you can.

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

i have yet to see where he has one point on me. guess in blind.

Guess so. Everyone else seems to get the picture.

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

you know what else causes deaths? tylenol. oh yeah, table salt does it too! if some moron inhales it... get my drift?

Last I checked, Tylenol and table salt aren't illegal. Taking Tylenol and snorting table salt arent illegal either. Wierd how that adds nothing whatsoever to your argument.

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

besides, this is just an opinion pole,

This is also a discussion of the safety and justification (or lack thereof) of street racing. I have presented plenty of facts for you to absorb, and just because you choose to ignore them does not negate them as being facts.

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

no matter what he says, im still going to go out there every day and have fun, thats the point of a sports car.

The point of a sports car is to break the law? Does it say that in the manual? And are you seriously calling a Cavalier a sports car?

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

no matter what i say i wont be able to sway his mind either. somewhat of a silly conversation in that sense.

Now, there's the first time you have been right in this whole thread. No, you won't sway my mind because like I said earlier, there is no justification to breaking the law "for fun", putting the lives of many others in clear danger, and having no regard for the safety of anyone, anything, and everyone around you.

[public]

I have yet to put anyone on the morgue cart by direct action. But I am 6'3 and about 270. So my Cavi's real slow pullin me around. But if you or anyone hurts someone I care about due to stupidity I can get rather forcefull. Then comes the lawyers.

[Classicrocjunkie]

Damn public... you got 1 inch and 30 lbs on me..Guess i am not only the big guy in here.

[public]

I work in the ER. I am a Sargent in the Security Department at an intercity hospital. I deal with guys like this every damn night. Drunks, druggies, psycho's, every criminal on the 6pm news(they get arrested upon discharge so the cops don't have to pay the bill so I get 'em), . You get the idea. You gotta be big and quick or you just get hurt.

I am way tooooo Big for a Cavi. At least it is a 2 door so that helps. We had a 4door here at work, me in there was not a pretty sight. and my little wife has a new Buick Century. How fair is that?

Can we lock this VERY tired thread already?

[mike@af]

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

if done right it harms no one.

Correct. But the right way is on the track. The way you're racing harms no one until you slame into some Mom in her van with her children coming home from McDonalds.

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

oh yeah, and my justification to speeding... because its fun.

Burning things is fun...destroying things is fun, but I dont go around doing that.

So far your arguements are not backed up by anything of substance, just a bunch of hooplah thats post-hoc, bandwagon, among other things. You are just running in circles backing stuff up with unrelated arguements.

[Classicrocjunkie]

no lets keep it open, this is an interesting discussion. I think its ok as long as we dont start a flame war, and so far there is no war just an matar trying to defend his own stupid clause.

[public]

Yeah, I guess. It just all seems like I have heard it before. I too was once young and full of stupid ideas.

Maybe it will get real interesting when he convinces us that he is RIGHT and we all must apologize. I'll stay tuned in.

[public]

Originally Posted by Classicrocjunkie

stupid clause.

Like Santa?

[Classicrocjunkie]

Ho-ho-ho...

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

i have every right to street race whenever and wherever i want, because of one thing... i am an american, that gives me the right to be an inconsiderate asshole till hell freezes over.

Lol.I was actually having a bit of a holiday from AF, but this was just too good to miss.When I've stopped laughing,I could tell you about how reckless and stupid street racing is, but I won't. Because you already know. The facts have all been laid out in front of you many times, you've mashed them over in your head until you can come up with an excuse to continue behaving antisocially, and then you've closed your mind to any arguments that people are willing to put to you for your own well-being and for the safety of those around you.

Statistically, young boys are a bad insurance risk. The reason is very simple.Their lack of skill and their massive egos conspire to make them drive way too fast for the conditions.They don't know their stopping distances, they don't know the point at which a hard corner becomes a one way trip into a fence post, and they don't know when to take their foot off the gas to avoid a skid. They've seen The Fast And The Furious,creamed their underwear, and now believe that they are experts at the art of driving.

Without wishing to look to long in the rear view mirror at your cav,I'll tell you about my vehicle.it's a bog standard Nissan Skyline R33 GTS25 4 door auto.The only mod that has ever been made was to remove the speed limiter.It was gone before I bought the car, and I have no iterest in finding out what the effects are.Nissan put it on the car for a damn good reason, so as far as I'm concerned, it may as well still be there.
Now, I've had the car 8 months and I've not tested it fully yet, so I don't know what it's truly capable of, but I know that I like it enough to want to keep it.Same goes for my spinal chord.Spending the next 60 years in a wheelchair,crapping into a plastic bag is not a look that appeals to me.

If some ditzy little punk decided they want to go me at the lights,I let them go.I'm not interested.If they want to show the world how childish they can be, good luck to them.I'll catch up with them 100yards up the street, and when the plods catch up with them, I'll have 28 days peaceful drivong while their car sits in the impound yard.Longer even, if they can't afford the impound fees after they've been slapped with a massive fine.

Be an inconsiderate asshole alll you like, it won't get you the respect of anyone.In the small band of losers that makes up the street racing scene,you are only as good as your last win, and even then, you're not much to anyone except yourself. And from the looks of your postings so far,I'd say you need absolutely no help with that whatsoever.

[jon@af]

Well said Kevin .

Originally Posted by TunerAdept

ok... ill make my opinion short and sweet. i agree you shouldnt be going more than 100 in any scenario. but i also street race daily, every chance i get in fact. i have every right to street race whenever and wherever i want, because of one thing... i am an american, that gives me the right to be an inconsiderate asshole till hell freezes over. calling high speeders morons is one thing, but to bash all forms of street racing, despite the driver and despite the area and despite the car isnt fair. i have seen people who get in wrecks, they are morons. not all street racers race that high, i usually kill it at about 70 ona good day, 50 on an average since im usually way winning by then... just a thought.

1. No, you DON'T have every right to street race whenever and wherever you want. If you honestly believe this, you need to be slapped. Street racing is illegal. Period. Nothing is going to make it right. Therefore, being illegal, you do NOT have the right. Being an American has nothing to do with it. Please show me what consitutional amendment says you have the right to street race. There are none. You are wrong.

2. You DON'T have the right to put other peoples' lives at risk. I could care less how safe you THINK you are. Street racing is dangerous and stupid. You cannot account for every single thing happening around you when getting into a street race. Everytime you decide to street race against someone, there is always a chance that something will go wrong. You may think you're just that good, but you're not. Inevitability outweighs luck. Your luck IS going to run out, and I'll have no pity when it does.


TunerAdept, if you've got anymore comments for any of the members who've posted in this thread, you will send them via private message. You will not leave them here. We've already bastardized this thread enough.

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[cmjrbking123]

LOL street racing is cool as long as nothing bad happens.

but you do it long enough something bad will. i used to think it was cool

until my friend hit a concret pillar at 120 mph. he died instantly.

putting yours or someone else life at risk is not a right. say for example

your in your car and you hit someone crossing the street you did not see you just commited murder. enjoy spending the rest of your life behind bars with the guilt. just because of some stupid race.