AT or MT what do you like better

[SilverLotus340R]

WHATS WITH THE PEOPLE DISSING TRUCKS AND TOYOTAS????

I have a standard truck and it is the best. Why do trucks have to be autos? I think autos are for lazy ass people and luxery cars. And the TOYOTAS Ando_Rules HAVE TONS OF SPEED.. i got one word for ya SUPRA and id love to see you race my neighbors tundra...he'd woop yo ass so fast youd be like wtf just happened :finger:

[Polygon]

Originally posted by SilverLotus340R
WHATS WITH THE PEOPLE DISSING TRUCKS AND TOYOTAS????

I have a standard truck and it is the best. Why do trucks have to be autos? I think autos are for lazy ass people and luxery cars. And the TOYOTAS Ando_Rules HAVE TONS OF SPEED.. i got one word for ya SUPRA and id love to see you race my neighbors tundra...he'd woop yo ass so fast youd be like wtf just happened :finger:

Besides the Celica and Supra I don't feel there is an advantage to having a manual in the other Toyota cars, though I prefer them in cars because they are more fun to drive. The reason trucks should be automatic is because that no matter what if you take two identical trucks besides one having a manual and one having an automatic the automatic will out pull the manual every time. Automatics are by far better for towing and hauling stuff. If you don't use it for those things then I guess a manual would be just fine, but why the hell own a truck and not use it like one? Oh, and I'll take on your friend anytime, unless he has modded his engine something terrible I, and most others in here will hand him his ass.

[Radocs]

I insist on driving cars with manual transmissions.

[Self]

Manual because it's funner and coooooler to drive a 6-speed But strictly AUTOMATICS if I'm going to the track and really want to win. Outlaunches and outshifts the manual every day of the week. Really can't be beaten by a traditional non-race tranny/gearbox.

[Chris V]

99% of the people saying a manual is "funner" and "cooler" are wannabe racers and teens (or close to it), who don't have a lot of experience in a wide variety of street and race cars. Iv'e been slalom racing for a couple decades, and many of the cars I've driven on teh track (and won with) have had performance built automatics. Especially the cars ith torquey V8s.

Fun? Maybe a little more fun, but here's the breakdown when going down a twisty road at speeds that won't get you arested:

Steer, brake, accellerate, steer some more. Unless it's REALLY tight, you don't even have to shift. So it's no different driving down that road with an automatic. If you're going really quickly, the difference is a bit greater, but not much: when you want to shift to keep the car in it's powerband, you need to push in a third pedal, too. But...

You can have fun on go karts that have no shifters. If that third pedal is the only thing that makes driving fun, bolt a shifter and a clutch pedal to your chair at home and STAY home. You'll get all the fun, without any of the associated costs. TO me, most of the fun is in teh speed and lateral G forces, that moving the third pedal has no part of.

To put it bluntly, it is NOT necessary for any "real" driving experience. If you think so, you're self limiting, inexperienced, and narrowminded, simply becasue the whole REASON for rowing through the gearbox does not exist on the street! And that's keeping a litle, peaky engine in it's optimum powerband, so as not to get caught out of the powerband when exiting a corner on a race track.

If you're not on a track, then YOU don't have a need to shift for yourself in anything but the most underpowered, small engine car. Oh, what's that? You want to? Fine. So do I (most of my cars have been manuals). But that doesn't mean that you need to use THAT "want" to denigrate performance cars with automatics. Nor should it blind you to the fact that what you want is absolutely unnecessary, even to drive fast or have fun. And it CERTAINLY doesn't put you in more control of a street car, or even an occasional race car. If you think so, you're just fooling yourself.

The reason traditional sports cars had manual transmissions goes to three main items:

First, it took many decades before working automatic transmissions became commonplace.

Second, early automatic transmissions robbed power badly, which isn't good on a small engine car, and were heavy, and not very reliable. None of them are good things for a sports car.

Third, small engine sports cars (which most of them were) have a very narrow powerband. In order to be in the right part of the powerband, a lot of gears were necessary. And every track was differnet, so that you had to match the available powerband to the car and to the track, so teh ability to change gearsets easily was, and stil is, very important. Not very easy to do in an automatic, but not necessary in a performance street car with a big engine.

Not a single reason sports cars had manuals was because of it being more "fun."

A perfomance tuned automatic shifts firm and fast (faster than you can shift a manual trans car) but it shifts too firm for a production street car, so all street automatics are tuned a bit soft, for the general buyer. But, just like you can do a lot of things to your engine to make mor epower and have better throttle response, you can do the same to many automatic transmissions, and end up with a trans that shifts faster than a manual, shifts exactly when you want it to, up or down, and yet can stil shift automatically for those times when you are stuck in traffic, and fun can't be had no matter WHAT you're driving...

[shadowrunner03]

my current car is a 4speed datsun 720 4x4 1 ton ute i love manuals especialy in Trucks. i have driven a few auto trucks and it takes all the fun out of goin 4x4ing in an auto.

[Ace$nyper]

God gave me 2 arms for a reason one for stick one for wheel :silly2: I tend to get bored with autos cause you just drive. Slosh boxes .I dont hate them too much though lol great for bracket racing and road he.... err nm

[curtis_s]

MT -- gotta go MT -- there is, and maybe it's just an illusion, more control over the car.

plus it can really "lunge" in first --- as in, i'm stuck in an intersection and here comes a big truck about to whack me and i need to just lunge out of the way.

cs

[SuPeRcAr_MaN]

Manual, like my GTO. Hurst 4-speed. Or, of course, 6-speeds for most of today's cars.

[Ace$nyper]

Hey Supercar i got a hurst 4 spd too! does that mean my car is as cool as your GTO :hehe: nice ride!

[GTStang]

Manual is so much funnier and I'd rather have one in a sports car any day of the week. I've owned all manuals until the car I have now. But if you wanna run consistent times at the track everytime... can't beat the auto. But I'd still rather own a manual lol

[corvettezman]

Manual Transmission. It's fun and adds more performance. Maybe 10 hp too!

[Ratunis]

Manual, so very much better =·)

Here in argentina in a workshop i ve been working one American Man came in saying something happened with the transmission of his car (Ford Ka). In this country is very dificult to find an automatic transmission car, all of them are manual anda in the USA all cars are automatic, so he came here thinking he would find an Automatic car, he whent 100km on the 1st Gear, till the motor burned out, he had no idea ir was not manual
i have no idea how he couldn´t realice the sound said to him tha something was wrong

but well. jojojo

[Jimster]

OK so now that I ditched the Semi-auto all 3 viechles in my garage are manuals- myu daily driver a 6-speed. I just enjoy manuals more- they are a pain in the ass in heavy traffic though

[BMW-Hamann]

Depend on the area you live .. If lots of autobahn stick shift is the best choice but if you live in the busy area and jam almost all the time have to be compromise with auto ...