turbo or supercharger

[will69camaro]

Agreed a well maintained turbo can last as long as a supercharger. Before i looked into forced induction much i got the procharger info packet and was SOLD. It sounded awesome and looked to give great results but after meeting people who had the procharger setups and have since gone with turbo setups none have regretted it. Turbos make power without "loosing" power. For instance a 600hp turbo car will take gas and be as drivable as a 600hp car can be, however a 600hp supercharged car will get the gas mileage of a 750hp car (actual power before paristic loss in blower drag). Both are great (supercharger and turbo) but when i go forced induction, it will be a turbo setup.

William

[MMonnier2302]

that video was awesome, 30 psi on 91 octane. Thats why superchargers are better. Just the same power potential, far better low end torque, and they wont get so hot that the manifold goes red or the engine blows up. Belt driven all the way.

[turboEKhatch]

Originally Posted by MMonnier2302

that video was awesome, 30 psi on 91 octane. Thats why superchargers are better. Just the same power potential, far better low end torque, and they wont get so hot that the manifold goes red or the engine blows up. Belt driven all the way.

Do you even know what you're talking about? I'll give you a comparison. My T-trim'ed 306 mustang is making a little over a pound, pound and a half of boost at 3000 RPM's. My buddies 306 mustang with a T70 turbocharger makes 12 pounds of boost at 3000 RPM's. His car makes 515 RWHP and over 650 RWTQ. Turbochargers on V8's OWN superchargers in the low end, mid range, and top end. Why do you think at NMRA races, SSO Turbo cars are limited to 360 inches, while blower cars can be 420 inches with physically larger blowers, weigh 200 pounds less, and still the turbo cars are winning? Because turbos OWN.

[MMonnier2302]

man you must have a shitty car then...............

But anyway, im not talking 600 hp im talking what that Camaro was running, with that setup, stick 30psi from a turbo and you wont be able to run 91 octane, sure turbos are better than super's with race gas, but i like driving my car, without the need to dump $100 for gas.

You completely misunderstood what i was saying. I don't think you know what you are talking about.

[MMonnier2302]

new the honda guy would go with the turbo.

No real sense in argueing with him. Lost cause

[drvngstorm05]

as you can tell from the bickering... turbo's and superchargers each have their upsides and downsides... its an opinion thing, and also depends on what you are looking to get out of it...

[MMonnier2302]

In addition, i'm not talking strickly racing here either, If i wanted a drag setup, then my opinion would change.

[ls1mazda93rx7]

Originally Posted by will69camaro

I'd say turbo, more expensive initially but more efficient than supercharger. I dont think a supercharger is necessarily more reliable than a turbo charger, from what i've seen it's actually the opposite. As has also been said turbo=almost unlimited horsepower.

William

thats the total truth, there is no other answer, thank you.

[Dreamspawn]

I'm just saying thats what most turbos that come from like preturboed cars say to. a good turbo like one u would buy directly from those companies can go awhile but that is what there rep told me when i was looking at a Mitsu eclipse.

[drvngstorm05]

both superchargers and turbochargers, if done right, can be incredibly reliable. i don't think reliability is a valid arguing point... the only factor is if the setup was done in the correct way, if it was, then odds are both will be equally reliable. there are way to many variables in reliability to compare them...

[89rstbi]

i appreciate all ur comments and i didnt mean to start any problems...but im still stuck on the price deal...ive been looking all day online and i cant find any lkits for a 383...n e one know where there are any out there

[drvngstorm05]

they did tell u to look at banks didn't they?
anyway, if u haven't, here's the site

http://www.bankspower.com/news.cfm

[drvngstorm05]

btw, i believe their setups are for all small blocks, so a 383 small block would work just fine...

[Chevyracincamaro]

both a turbo and a supercharger are parasitic. if you put enough money in the turbo, it might be slightly less parasitic (bearings propeller shaft and lube). you also have to remember about turbo lag. it all comes down to when you want the power. high end, get a turbo. right away, get a supercharger. most of the time you supercharge a pushrod cause they generally cant rev as high as the smaller ohc engines. if you have an LS1 or something that can rev up to and over 6 grand than a turbo will work really well. the big displacement engines generally have superchargers to get the power lower in the torque curve...

[DaMoNe6969]

Originally Posted by Chevyracincamaro

both a turbo and a supercharger are parasitic. if you put enough money in the turbo, it might be slightly less parasitic

If by slightly less you meant 30-50hp..
A turbo will draw about 5hp entirly in exhaust backpressure *which isnt necisarily a bad thing, especially in small engines..
Ive seen some superchargers draw as much as 50hp off an engine.. some more, some a little less..

Everyone also takes the turbo lag thing way too far.. Turbo lag is almost completly a thing of the past..
In my car if I power brake, at a dig I can have 8psi right off the launch, and have the turbo fully spooled under 3000rpm..