I am NOT going to Iraq!!!!

[SniperX13]

To me, its one thing to be not interest in joining up, or going over seas. I will admit, even though I do think all males in the United Stated, the moment they hit 18 and graduate High School, should serve a mandatory 2 year stint in any branch of the armed services, I also recognize the fact that the military life and way of living is its own mentality, and therefor, not for everyone. To Me, its takes a special type of person, right now, to strand up, and sign up. and before those of you say it, I served 4 years, and I just sent in copies of my DD214 and re-enlistment papers to the Army Reserves. If you choose not to serve, thats your right. Hundreds of Thousands of Soldiers died so you can have that right to not join. I hold no animosity towards you for that. The only thing I did have objection to, is your statement, of Running to Canada if a draft is re-enacted, and your called up. You live in a country that gives you the right to speak your mind, and allows you to have the means to live what ever life you pretty much choose too...... but when this same said country, needs your help fighting its cause (even though its obviously not yours) you suddenly turn your nose up at it, give it the finger, and run away. I don't know if you are able to understand where I am coming from, or if I was able to make any sense, its really late, I am on a bunch of cold medicene, but it bothers me, when people enjoy all the freedoms that this great sociaty affords you, but when asked to step up, and help, they quickly turn their backs and run.
I know plenty of people here in town, that are not from here, and have tried to join the military to fight for the USA, because this country allows them so much more than there homeland ever would, or could. they see the value this country has to offer, why can't you?

[BP2K2Max]

people have the right to disagree with the actions or policies of their government/leader. if we didn't, we'd all be Nazi's.

[YogsVR4]

Its fine that you don't want to go to Iraq. However, I hope you are not one of the clueless fucking morons out there who think that there is going to be a draft. Idiots like that rarely achieve higher status then burger flipper.

[HogieGT-R]

i used to get calls from the Marines and the Army all the time, and i've got friends and family members who are in the military....yeah i'm proud of them, but do i want to join? no. i support the troops, but when somebody i knew died in Najif, his father was so struck with grief that he jumped inside the military van and set it on fire. i knew him and his younger brother. i don't want to be in there, because if i died, i know that my parents would do the same thing, and i wouldn't want them to bury me, especially after my grandmother had just died a couple of months ago.

oh and the reason as to how they get your numbers? when you sign up for FAFSA (otherwide known as Financial Aid) for college, one of the steps that you have to do is register. it's mandatory or else. also the military came around to give the ASVAB test. this test, they say is to tell you what job you'd be the best in (career exploration), but after you take ti, they send your information to the military, resulting in countless calls from the military wanting you to join.

[Limited5.9Cherokee]

[quote=imtheoneandonlyD]Why arent you over then then tough guy?
QUOTE]

Originally Posted by Toksin

So when are you signing up then?

Or are you too much of a pussy?

Because the Marine Corp. (or any branch) will not take anyone with certain medical histories. I enlisted but was declined because i had broken my neck twice and have a plastic insert and also had reconstructive surgery on my foot on several occassions.
But what i have done is volunteered at various summer camps over the last few years to counsel children whose parents are overseas.
I also am pursuing law enforcement. If there was a way i could go overseas you would not see my ass Stateside for a while. through certain connections i am able to go through the Army MP training school this summer.

[Killswitch]

[quote=Limited5.9Cherokee]What a fucking pussy. You dont give a fuck who those soldiers are over there as long as its not you. If you wont pack your shit and be gone by sunrise if they reinstate the draft (which they wont) then you dont need to be in this country in the first place.QUOTE]

Now I never said I didn't give a fuck about them. All I'm saying is we have no purpose in Iraq. I know they aren't gonna reinstate the draft, but you never know. This is a free country, so I have the right to choose whether or not I go to Iraq. If you think I'm such a "fucking pussy", why don't you go to Iraq and see how long it takes you to get killed. I'd much rather be here.

[PBking82]

SniperX13- I totaly understand where you're coming from. Generally it's the people who imigrated to the United States who understand the true freedoms that we have in this country. Those of us born here generally tend to think differantly when it comes to war. Myself will never join the armed forces due to I have way too much of a problem with authority, and tend to be too much of a free thinker. I don't like being told what to do without reason as to why i'm doing what i'm doing. With Iraq the thing is that we as American's are not being threatened, are freedom's are not being threatened. We are more threatened now then when Saddam was in power. We as American's tend to think of ourselves as "right" but, when do we have the right to go and police the world without the approval of the UN? who determines what was going on in Iraq was worse than Iran, NK, China, Southern Africa, shit the entire world? G W Bush? Then we attempt to promote democracy in its "purist" form. Shit we can't even get it right in this country half the time, now we're telling others how to govern properly. The sad thing is that it's the guys who proboly work the hardest on this whole thing that get crapped on the worst. The average joe, GI gets shot/blown up just for doing his/her job that they're getting paid to do. I realised this when I cooked hot-dogs for most of the 10th Mountain Devision this last June. Majority of the guys didn't even wanna talk about the wars going on, just wanted to eat and have a good time with their families. I salute every person who is currently in harms way, I do because they are doing their jobs which is more than I can say for most people stateside right now. Am I sorry for them? No not really because they all signed up, knowing what they were getting into. Unfourtnatley there seems to be no end in sight. With permant bases going up all across the country, we seem to be in it for the long haul. The problem with this is that the troops are gonna need to be coming from somewhere to support this conflict/others allready happening/and others bound to happen. This country may need a draft, for everyone to open their eyes and realize what the hell is going on. Then it just wouldn't be a friend of your's or you'r friend's kid, it would be YOU are YOUR kid. If it came to a draft and it was either go fight or leave the country, I would leave the country. Who wants to be a resident or representative of a nation who uses their power as a superpower to police the world, create lifestyles for those who don't want them, and force democracy on those who don't want it. Anyone have any clue what I'm talking about? Peace-

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by RickwithaTbird

"so im playing a violent war game, blowing shit up and going nuts with space aged weapons... well, the US Marines called... Im not interested in that shit"

lol.. just pointing out the Irony.
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Classic answer.The boy is a classic 'armchair warrior'.Chucks his chips out when the recruiting office makes a social call.Don't worry,boy, you're not emotionally stable enough to pass the medical.


Episode 2...So I'm sitting at home minding my own business, and these two Jehovah's Witnesses knock on my door..My mom's like 'go away'.

What the fuck,man, I don't wanna be a joey! They can't make me! I aint going out selling no shit door-to-door! I'm not gonna wear no suit an' ride a bicycle! Hell ! If they try to force me, I'm becomin' a Bhuddist!

[Skateforfood]

The Army,Navy,Marines gets your names from Contests,School Applications,anything that u give your phone number on. Also I know im gonna get flammed but watch Fharenhite 911 it shows how they lie and trick kids to get in the navy army and marines. One of them told that Michael Jordan was in the the navy and the navy helped him get were he is.

[PBking82]

Don't believe everything you see on TV. Opposition was just as able to make FarenHYPE 9/11 and sell it. M.M. showed facts that the general media chose no to show. Farenheight 9/11 is basically the opposite of the point of Bowling For Columbine. Through BFC he was trying to say that the media twists and contorts things that will give them ratings. In F9/11 he created his own media and showed his opinion about GW Bush. Good movie though recomend it to all. Peace-

[Muscletang]

1. the draft isn't coming back at this moment, maybe in 5-10 years at the very least

2. leave, go to Canada, we don't want you here if that's what you plan to do

3. I'm not for the draft but if it comes back and it looks like I'm going to get recruited I'm not going to the army or marines but probably the air force where I can still serve but be in less danger

[Andydg]

Originally Posted by -Jayson-

you guys have no clue. Your all brain washed by the media. yes our soldiers are getting killed, over 1400 right now. But what you dont know, is that many of the soldiers over think what they are doing is the right thing. I have friends over their right now, i get to talk to them every now and then. These are foot soliders and MPS, the guys getting killed. They are proud of what they are doing, im proud of what they are doing. What saddam was doing was no different that Hitler and the holocaust, just not on such a grand scale. If oppose the war, then you dont support the troops. Cause the majority of the troops support the war. I dont know if you realize how badly those people have been treated and need our help. If you read some of the stories about their voting the other day, you would get chills down your back. People walking to voting booths to vote and they hear and see nearby voting booths get blown up. The Iraqis march in protest against the terrorist. Elected officials EXPECT to get assasignated. IN the US if it rains we tons of people wont go to vote, in Iraq you need to blow them up to stop them from voting. Also dont forget, the soldiers over their signed up for the marines. They fully understood this wasnt going to be ajob where they sat on their ass's all day and did nothing. They understand the dangers involved with the armed forces and excepted those dangers. And a draft, gimmie a break, stop reading National Inquirer. Even if their was a draft, if my country called on me, id proudly serve. Im not a scared little pussy who is gonna run away to canada when things get bad. And dont say anything about me not being their now, my job is going to be way riskier than anything your scared butt will ever be. Im going into law enforcement. DEA or US Marshalls.

You just typed everything I was thinking. I have 8 or 9 friends over there and if I could be at their side helping them out I'd be there in an instant.

[publicenemy137]

Yea a military recruiter called and talked to me a month ago. He was extremly nice and cordial. He tried to bs with me at first, asking what my goals were, what I want to do in life, etc... I just bsed him back, I didn't want to be rude to someone who works in our military. Then he tried to recruit me saying I'd have experience in IT, blah blah blah. Then I just politely told him I already have connections and I'm going to go my own way, he accepted it and said good-bye. There's no way in hell I'd want to go to Iraq either. I also have many friends who have gone and the conditions are horrifying. There are times when you can't leave the bunkers b/c there are gunshots whizzing by everywhere. You never know when a crazed militant will pop out and kill you. As bad as the media makes Saddam seems, there are worse dictators out there. Like Kim Jong Ill, or what about the Rwanda massacre. If we take out Saddam b/c we want democracy there, why would we just aim to go to Iraq and not the world? And I don't want to get any deeper, it will just be a long drawn out argument. I support the troops and definetly grateful for their dedication in Iraq, but I don't think our gov't should have went there in the first place.

[CamaroSSBoy346]

If I ever had to go to war, I would like to, but I think my medical conditions would prevent me.

[Steel]

By the by, you can't hide in Canada, or England. They will not tolerate draft dodgers.