3000gt VS Prelude

[stfuad]

I have to disagree about the elise. A elise weighs under a ton, while the SL weighs like 3400lbs. I think the weight difference would make up for the lack of HP.

[PearlGT]

Originally Posted by stfuad

I have to disagree about the elise. A elise weighs under a ton, while the SL weighs like 3400lbs. I think the weight difference would make up for the lack of HP.

I thought thats what he was saying?

h22 vtecs are nice
the 3.0 dohc's in 3000gt's are nice
for me its just too close to call.
What if he's quicker on the clutch?
what if he does manage a better launch?
what if he shifts more efficiently in and out of his power band than you?
what if one of you misses a shift?

There are just so many what if's in racing and with specs like this even though the 3000gt seems to have an advantage there are always chances for error.

Given your experience I think you'd take him and I'm rooting for the 3000gt in full force. See if you can take him from a dig and a roll. Let us know hot it goes.

[GritMaster]

Originally Posted by aking3000gt

I own the 3000gt ... its a base model with exhaust, downpipe, intake, and crank pulley.

222 HP?

I Imagine he's making a few more than that wouldn't you?
Granted none of those mods are outstanding but perhaps good for another 15 HP one would think? that makes the gap a few more than 22 HP between the two, just dump a few weighting thingys out of your car too but don't tell him hehe.

[NitroguN]

Yea i agree with pearl. One mistake from you and his h22 is gonna show you no mercy! And vice versa. You're definitely the faster car though. Hey how much torque on the h22?

[Linebckr49]

Originally Posted by PearlGT

I thought thats what he was saying?.

YES, that IS what i was saying. The Elise is under 2000lbs (unheard of for the majority of sports cars!!!!) and one factor that gets it under that weight limit is the small motor it has. But still, the 1.8L toyota Celica engine with variable valve timing packs quite a punch when there's not much mass to move. Oh, and the composite/carbon fiber chassis and body helps too! For about 40 grand, if/when i ever have that kind of money to blow on a car, i would seriously consider that car b/c it handles like no other: very nimble and light, and pulls about 1.0g, if not more, if i remember correctly. you know what that spells...B.A.D.A.S.S.!

But back to topic, ya, aKing3000GT, you better smoke him with your bigger engine, more mods, and hopefully better driving skills.

[Boosted1]

Originally Posted by NitroguN

Hey how much torque on the h22?

The H22 has like 162lb/ft torque. Not very much, but I've been in Civics with H22's and it gets the job done. Feels much stronger than that. And it gets up in the revs quickly. It's a different feel than the B series engines that require high revs.

[stfuad]

...Ya you can play the 'weight card', but i think that's BS. there's not enough weight difference in any other cars on the market (excluding the exotic Lotus) that would make any sort of noticeable difference....

lol I read excluding as including. I'm stupid sometimes

[aking3000gt]

anybody ever ran the quartermile???

[Thourun]

Yea but I ran out of breath.

[NitroguN]

Originally Posted by Boosted1

The H22 has like 162lb/ft torque. Not very much, but I've been in Civics with H22's and it gets the job done. Feels much stronger than that. And it gets up in the revs quickly. It's a different feel than the B series engines that require high revs.

Yea i hear those h22's (and gsr's) pull hard! The odds are still against the prelude though . Ugh ... i'm so anxious to see the results ... aking hurry! lol

[aking3000gt]

well hopefully tomorrow jan. 9 the lude will be at the track... my buddies and I are all going.... imma try and hit a 14.7 but will see!!!

[Igovert500]

Bottom line, the cars are close enough that it will be a drivers race...especially since he mentioned that he has trouble on 'street' launches sometimes.

[GritMaster]

Originally Posted by Thourun

Yea but I ran out of breath.

I think you need a new Form of air intake, Try an HKS Mouth mount Super sucker Mushroom intake.

[Boosted1]

Originally Posted by GritMaster

Try an HKS Mouth mount Super sucker Mushroom intake.

Actually, they're overrated. Let us know how the race turns out tomorrow. Best of luck.

[Thourun]

Lol.