Cassie v. 1.8 (#4)

[CassiesMan]

What gear is your buddys 330ic in when hes going that fast? If Im in fourth, doing 80 Im at 2000 even. I was probably at or around 5k, which isn't that bad, considering that when I race it, I usually dont shift till about 6500 rpm, it redlines at 7000.

And your buddy ought to go talk to the dealership again. My neighbor blew the engine on his 530i driving the same way I do, and they replaced no problem becasue it was under warrenty. If your buddy had modified the engine of his 330ic with non Dinan parts, and they casued it to blow, thats another story.

[Igovert500]

First off, it's his car, he can do what he wants with it
Secondly, this is a STREET RACING forum, why so much criticism for racing on a highway...nobody is forcing anyone to be in here, so if you are going to post, why not keep it semi-positive and not refer to his level of intelligence. Yes racing at those speeds isn't the safest thing to do, so is eating old sushi...who cares. This is a forum here to post street racing stories, so let him.

Originally Posted by TypeS

I really don't care if you go 130 on an empty road, but the limiter is there for a reason.

It's a BMW so it's not bad to go up to 130 for a few seconds, but staying just shy of the fuel cutoff limiter for 5 minutes isn't good.

Also, in reference to this, some manufacturers put limiters on to limit the top speeds of the cars because they are cheap and don't want to equip the car with the more expensive and higher speed rated tires. This is their way of cutting corners and staying within government regulations. I'm not saying this is the specific case on his car(I really don't know) I'm just saying there are more than 1 possible explanations for the limiter.

[TypeS]

Originally Posted by CassiesMan

What gear is your buddys 330ic in when hes going that fast? If Im in fourth, doing 80 Im at 2000 even. I was probably at or around 5k, which isn't that bad, considering that when I race it, I usually dont shift till about 6500 rpm, it redlines at 7000.

And your buddy ought to go talk to the dealership again. My neighbor blew the engine on his 530i driving the same way I do, and they replaced no problem becasue it was under warrenty. If your buddy had modified the engine of his 330ic with non Dinan parts, and they casued it to blow, thats another story.

Dude,lol, either you're lying, or you have some type of freaky engine in there - or maybe a different differential ratio. My buddy is in 5th when around 3000 rpms, and he's got a better (bigger) engine than you do. "80 in 4th @ 2000 rpms" LMFAO

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...2&page=1&pp=20

BTW, here's what Car & Driver has to say about that, when comparing it to another engine:

The SOHC all-aluminum VTEC V-6 produces 260 horsepower through a broad torque range and offers the bonus of a lusty exhaust grumble under hard acceleration. It is hooked to an all-new, cable-operated six-speed gearbox that permits 80-mph cruising speeds with the tach loitering at 2750 rpm in top gear. But one puzzles: Is the extra cog really needed, or is it more technological gadgetry like four-wheel steering? Although the six-speed is a pleasure, the five-speed onboard the BMW is every bit as effective in seeking maximum performance and only boosts the revs at 80 mph to a modest 3200.

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=2

[RACER D12]

What where you trying to prove with those links? Not trying to be an ass just dont feel like reading all that. RPMs dont control your speed its all about the gearing. You cant just say 3000rpms = 80mph or because your going this fast your engine must be going at this many RPMs.

Anyways a BMW should NOT blow its engine from just going a 100mph or 130mph for 5min. And Im not just talking out my ass. My friend used to live in Italy (in fact he is there right now visiting family) and his father has told us stories about doing triple digits in his sisters 80something 325i for sometimes as much as an hour! He has done this to MANY cars over there. Why? cause that’s how people drive over there he says. BMW is made for places like the autobahn where people do what we might consider extreme speeds for long periods of time. 5 minutes at 130mph... no bigge

[TypeS]

Obviously you didn't read my post but that's ok, I'll make it simple for you. There's no way he's going 80 @ 2000 rpms in 4th unless he changed his gearing - which he never said he did - which means he must have been in high rpms for 5 minutes. Get it? Good!

Ask any BMW owner, how many of them would wanna put their BMWs between 5500 and 7000 rpms for 5 minutes at those speeds? Or better yet, when you get one, I wanna see you do that without regretting it, especially with the smallest engine they have now.

So you're telling me that if someone just gave you a brand new broken in 2.5l bmw, you'd willingly go on the highway and race someone at those speeds and rpms for that long, and you wouldn't worry about the car one bit?

Like someone stated before "I wonder how many thousands of miles he took of his motor"

[HighRev87]

Originally Posted by TypeS

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Cassie has been a respectable member for awhile so I tend to believe him. This story isnt unrealistic in anyway, remember just because somehting happened when car and driver straped up thier belts, doesnt mean it is the ONLY thing that can happen. Nice Kill.

[GritMaster]

Old Sushi is disgusting.



And Why do you honestly care? It's his car, I doubt it's really that hard of a feat to accomplish in a BMW, maybe his timing is off? there are various factors that can change what you rev at, and he could have been going down hill :P

anyhow....

[CassiesMan]

Originally Posted by TypeS

Ask any BMW owner, how many of them would wanna put their BMWs between 5500 and 7000 rpms for 5 minutes at those speeds? Or better yet, when you get one, I wanna see you do that without regretting it, especially with the smallest engine they have now.

I know about 9 that I Autocross with regularly who race the shit outa there Bimmers. One of them was one of those bastards who was lucky (read: rich) enough to go to the ring with his 323ic. He said he never dropped bellow 5000 rpm the entire time. And those are near ten minute laps. Ten minutes at over 5000 rpm? And its a daily driver.

Also, your wrong. the 2.5L I6 in the 325 is the current smallest motor in a US import. In Europe, the 1 serries has a much smaller 4 banger. Speaking of, acording to Roundel, they'll be importing them soon...

Also, comming up to school. 80mph, fourth gear, cruise control, tach read 2000rpm, and that nifty little mpg meter read just over 35mpg. Now then, giving that it is an auto (with Steptronic), and on my last auto the tach was usually off a touch, I'll say that in fourth, I'm anywhere between 2000 and 2500 rpm

And HigRev87, I didn't know I was respected...thanks. And Im not being a sarcastic asshole, really, thanks.

And I'm out.

[TypeS]

Oh, I didn't believe his story and I couldn't care less what he does with HIS car.

All I said was that I don't believe that it idles at 2000 rpms at 80 in 4th and that doing what he did can't be good for the car.

[speedthrill]

TypeS

Again bmws are made to be driven fast wy?

- first there's the fact that it is a german made car (hope you don't question this statement in case you think i ly too! ) and maybe you know this but in german the highways are ways were there is no speedlimit, you can race there as fast as you want. So its logic that they made a car that is capable of going fast for a very long time (no ten minutes, but i would say even half an hour isn't bad.

- second , uhmmm, o yeh: the speed limiter is there i believe (could be wrong, blame my dad, lol) because the car may not go too fast for safety reasons ( no motor safety though) but safety for people in general, they put it on there to make their car look more secure,
actually i dont believe this either (the second statement)

BUT i garantee you that my car (look in my gallery, a 320i) doesnt have problems with that speed and the rpms are limited at 5000, i'm doing 210 km/h while i read 4000 -4300 rpms and this is no joke, this is BMW.

Jezus, if you really think he's lying and you really want to proof it wy don't you mail, call or go to a bmw dealer,factory and listen there, but dont you come back here then with yr green purple white face of anger on yrself cause you decided to post a reply in wich you call cassiesman ( respectable bmw driver) a lyer.

sorry moderators, felt like replying on this one (is a rare fact)

see ya
Bert

Ps: sorry for the bad written english but i'm just from belgium you know,
oh yeah, one question for the american people: WY IS BUSH WINNING THE ELECTIONS ??? Dont you know whats he STILL does in IRAK to just children and normal people, shit man we see images daily here of bombs here, bombs there angryness here, there........pffff
another four yrs would be a disaster for the whole world, and dont believe what his statements are cause that's just all bullshit, jezus guys are you all blind or is there an information stop from whats happening outside america,
i give a golden tip, watch michael moore for a change

Sorry guys for this maybe in yr eyes bullshit but this is the only way fr me too reach americans and this is the opinion of europe asia and all the others, good luck there

[RACER D12]

3rd gear should go to at least 80. So if he was in 4th he would be really low in the RPMs.

[LandoAWD]

Originally Posted by speedthrill

i give a golden tip, watch michael moore for change

Mom is over in Knokke right now, and I should have her beat you. Research si vous plait.

The rest of the post is up to par.

[i3o2Matt]

Originally Posted by RACER D12

So if he was in 4th he would be really low in the RPMs.

not necessarily...i own a 1989 Nissan Maxima 5-speed, and 3rd gear tops out at 90 for me, and when i shift and let the clutch out (matching the throttle, of course) it catches at like 3K...5th gear would be closer to 2K, maybe 2.5K, and i kno our gears are different, but most cars would be about the same...but i wouldn't want to drive with the RPMs that high for that long...at any speed, because he could keep it in 1st at like 30 mph (or close to redline) and it would be at a very high rpm n e way...everything is just spinnin way too fast for too long of a time, buildin up too much heat because the oil is bein slung away from the metal too much, creatin more friction...i could be wrong about this but i would picture this is whats happening in an engine runnin at about 6K...

[i3o2Matt]

Originally Posted by LandoAWD

Research si vous plait.

actually...i think that should be s'il vous plait...if that's supposed to be french...i took it in high school a couple years ago n i forget most of it...

[RACER D12]

Originally Posted by i3o2Matt

not necessarily...i own a 1989 Nissan Maxima 5-speed, and 3rd gear tops out at 90 for me, and when i shift and let the clutch out (matching the throttle, of course) it catches at like 3K...5th gear would be closer to 2K, maybe 2.5K, and i kno our gears are different, but most cars would be about the same...but i wouldn't want to drive with the RPMs that high for that long...at any speed, because he could keep it in 1st at like 30 mph (or close to redline) and it would be at a very high rpm n e way...everything is just spinnin way too fast for too long of a time, buildin up too much heat because the oil is bein slung away from the metal too much, creatin more friction...i could be wrong about this but i would picture this is whats happening in an engine runnin at about 6K...

Alright fine lets say he would be between 2000 and 3000RPMs. Either way thats no where near the 5000 6000rpms TypeS is saying. I mean 3000RPMs isnt that bad.