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[jcsaleen]

This is the part I love when people doubt it...

Heres a little fact for you 2 days befor the bush announced his attack 3 charaterd ships 3rd largest class of tankers left Iraq and were very highly protected and to this day they have still not have been know to have docked anywhere and have not appeard on gps cause there locators have been disabled.... Hmmm :P

[YogsVR4]

Originally Posted by Toksin

You say that every time his name appears, Dave, and we know you've met him, so please, from your perspective of meeting him, what makes him a moron?

It would take to much time to type down the entire conversations (two of them) but lets just say the first one had him twisting in the wind to link every topic to Bush (kind of like T did in this thread). The first go around was even before Bush was president. One example was social security. The arguement centered around keeping it viable. His keen insight can be summed up by "Bush will destroy social security". Considering that Bush wasn't the topic and no elected official will fuck with the largest voting demographic in the country, you can kind of see that his world revolves around his hate.

[twospirits]

Originally Posted by jcsaleen

This is the part I love when people doubt it...

Heres a little fact for you 2 days befor the bush announced his attack 3 charaterd ships 3rd largest class of tankers left Iraq and were very highly protected and to this day they have still not have been know to have docked anywhere and have not appeard on gps cause there locators have been disabled.... Hmmm :P

You mean to tell me that 3 days before going in that Iraq managed to sneak out three ships (tankers at that) out without anyone doing anything about it. I am sure there were plenty of Armed forces ships in the area. No one stopped them and searched. I doubt it.

TS out

[DGB454]

Originally Posted by taranaki

Yes,there are plenty.America does not have a monopoly on free speech[even though there are those who will tell you to vote for them because the sky will fall down if you don't].But I can't think of any country with such a second-rate President for him to pull to pieces.

My obvious reply would be,is there another country in the world who would ever even consider allowing a murdering scumbag like Bush to stand for re-election?

This thread went from a poll about free speech to bashing Bush.

Thanks for keeping on topic and having a one track mind.

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by twospirits

You mean to tell me that 3 days before going in that Iraq managed to sneak out three ships (tankers at that) out without anyone doing anything about it. I am sure there were plenty of Armed forces ships in the area. No one stopped them and searched. I doubt it.

TS out

They are not allow to touch internation ships including tankers and they do move faster then you would think it takes about 15 (edit lol) days to ship from japan to N.Y harbor. Thats pretty fast. Max speeds are around 45 knots.

[driftu]

Originally Posted by jcsaleen

They are not allow to touch internation ships including tankers and they do move faster then you would think it takes about 1 days to ship from japan to N.Y harbor. Thats pretty fast. Max speeds are around 45 knots.

i think your math is off. and please post a site that backs up your claim off these ships leaving iraq. i would really like to see that.

[jcsaleen]

My mom charaterd the ship and she told me how long it was to get from japan to the U.S shes one of the top brokers in the U.S and has been doing this for 20 years. The name is Islandia charatering. Dont believe look it up. She does business witht the middle east every day please...

[carrrnuttt]

Wow jc, you need to get this info to the Whitehouse ASAP!

You could singlehandedly bring down the whole Kerry campaign!

You never know, Bush and Cheney are known to reward their friends...

Well?

[driftu]

Originally Posted by jcsaleen

My mom charaterd the ship and she told me how long it was to get from japan to the U.S shes one of the top brokers in the U.S and has been doing this for 20 years. The name is Islandia charatering. Dont believe look it up. She does business witht the middle east every day please...

i looked it up and guess what it is a shipping company. but it dosn't support your claim. and for reference it would take over 5 days to go from japan to newyork at 45 knots. and i think that is as the bird flys.

[jcsaleen]

Its not 110% accurate my mom has already talked to the bush adminastation numerious times about the exports out of Iraq she monitors pitcular spot in Iraq for them thats how she knew about the ships she was 1 of the first people to tell them. President Bush dosent bring up things from the past unlike John kerry. I have a letter from mr.bush for his thanks written to my mom Ill cif I can scan it for you guys.

[carrrnuttt]

I think this thread demonstrates just how smart AF people are.

One of us was even able to deduce where the WMD's went, while billions of dollars in resources couldn't...

[jcsaleen]

Driftu i looked it up and guess what it is a shipping company. but it dosn't support your claim. and for reference it would take over 5 days to go from japan to newyork at 45 knots. and i think that is as the bird flys.

A. They were mid sized tankers not extremely large but ment for pretty fast shippin.

B. A ship takes 1 to 2,3 days to load.

C. Panama canal japan to N.Y ?? hello uh panama has locks and it takes atleast a day extra to get through there and also changing weather conditions you didnt take any of these things into affect.

All my info my mom tells me Cause I would like to import a car. If your argiung with me your arguing with my moms info shes the only female broker in north america who owns her own shippin/charatering company and theres a reason why she owns it.

[driftu]

Originally Posted by jcsaleen

Its not 110% accurate my mom has already talked to the bush adminastation numerious times about the exports out of Iraq she monitors pitcular spot in Iraq for them thats how she knew about the ships she was 1 of the first people to tell them. President Bush dosent bring up things from the past unlike John kerry. I have a letter from mr.bush for his thanks written to my mom Ill cif I can scan it for you guys.

right why would he need to justify the war that he is getting flamed for.

[jcsaleen]

Originally Posted by carrrnuttt

I think this thread demonstrates just how smart AF people are.

One of us was even able to deduce where the WMD's went, while billions of dollars in resources couldn't...

Its not like that but when my mom noticed that 3 20,000 ton ships disappeard off the radar lol. I have a feeling the bush admin did find those ships but never actaully captured them.

[driftu]

Originally Posted by jcsaleen

Its not like that but when my mom noticed that 3 20,000 ton ships disappeard off the radar lol. I have a feeling the bush admin did find those ships but never actaully captured them.

i don't want to call your mom a liarer but. you are the only one saying this. google has nothing on the fact. can you offer anything to back up this claim?