AWD Monsters

[RazorGTR]

Well for a while any how. The government is putting a stop to the R32's coming in by passing some stupid frontal impact standard thing which because the R32 did not have the little sticker from Japan on it, they are not allowed to bring anymore in. Funny as the front bar is the same on the R33 well the construction and design is. The Goverment wants cars that fold up in a front to abosrb the impact instead of staying in tact. Go figure.

[RazorGTR]

crayzayjay now it is begining to make sence. I think what they are refering to is that since they are assuming that the GTR is 4wd oversteer should not be an issue. I can see the confusion in this. Also based on the date of that mag you posted that would have been a first generation R34 Vspec. Nissan must have had a something a-miss for some odd reason, anything is possible. I think what they are feeling or experiencing is the delay when the computer applied front wheel torque to sort out the wheel spin. It is also very possible one or more of the sensors would have been playing up. I would have had to see a video of it to be more sure though. Either way that is how they saw it and nothing anyone says will change the outcome now.

Lets just say I know you can throw a GTR around if you are brave enough, but one has to remember to keep your foot into it or it will go absolutely stupid and oversteer like an RWD car. It is hard to explain without writing a novel on the ATTESSA system and how and why it works as it does.

[YogsVR4]

I dont see the true monsters up their named Diablo and 911 Turbo S. Either of those would get my vote.

[crayzayjay]

YogsVR4>
lets see..... 444bhp, 0-60 in 3.6 seconds, 0-100 in 8.9? yeah, the 911 Turbo S was a beast alright . I used to see a dark blue one every day minutes from my house. The thing looked awesome yet he never seemed to drive it that fast. Maybe he was scared

cheers,
jay

[crayzayjay]

Razorgtst>

Yeah youre absolutely right the cars in question were both 1st generation R34 V-specs, so im sure there was notable improvement in the later cars. The testers were aware of the whizz-bang electronics, their findings were as i described them. Regardless of this, my favourite Skylines were the R33's purely for their looks, much sleeker than the cartoony R34

cheers,
jay

[Tom_S8]

You want real AWD monsters? Then put some not japanese cars in this poll , like RUF CTR2 , Porsche 959 , Lamborghini Murcielago , Diablo VT , Audi RS4 etc. Anyway from those , skyline please , possibily a Nismo 400R , because there's not even a single one outside japan...

[Gonthrax]

Originally posted by Tom_S8
You want real AWD monsters? Then put some not japanese cars in this poll , like RUF CTR2 , Porsche 959 , Lamborghini Murcielago , Diablo VT , Audi RS4 etc. Anyway from those , skyline please , possibily a Nismo 400R , because there's not even a single one outside japan...

yes yes 400R! Thats the big daddy of all the Skylines

Any how, I voted Nissan all the way because it has the best AWD system out of the three, better potential for HP and for handeling. And I trust Nissan and Nismo more then I do Scoob and Mitsi.

I donno though, Ghosn better be serious about bringing the GTR back with avengence in 2004 or he may lose a supporter. (yea I know, I'm sure it would really hurt his fealings if I stopped likeing nissan )

[crayzayjay]

I dont know... i wouldnt really call the RS4 a monster. i just saw my neighbour's wife driving it around with their baby at a snail's pace... its more of an effortless pace kind of car than a savage brute

cheers,
jay

[NISSANSPDR]

I just wanted to compare Japanese AWD cars...since this was done in CAR (a UK mag).

[Tom_S8]

Originally posted by crayzayjay
I dont know... i wouldnt really call the RS4 a monster. i just saw my neighbour's wife driving it around with their baby at a snail's pace... its more of an effortless pace kind of car than a savage brute

cheers,
jay

Yeah i know but it has some power if you want you can use it , but that's how it is right now , they don't make sport cars like they did a couple years ago... like the new porsche turbo , you can get it with tiptronic , that's too much , but even with manual it's a bit like playing a video game IMO , i'll probably get a lot of stick for that , but that's my honest opinion... Anyway an RS4 tuned to 500+ hp with a good driver and aftermarket suspension would be really nice...

Anyway the turbos aren't like the ones before...

My favourite is porsche 930 3.3T from 1978
4 speed
110 km/h in the 1st
This car was simply a pure
A little mistake and you're going sideways , but it wasn't awd so it doesn't count here...

[crayzayjay]

i know exactly what you mean. cars are getting "softer" and easier to drive. I dont like it either

[p_r_i_m_e_r_a]

I just have to throw in the Nissan Pulsar GTIR, and T4 Primera. Both cars are never spoken of and hold thier own.

[border_project]

boy thats a hard choice.

if money wasnt the fact, i would probably get the gtr.
22b is a limited production so i probably wouldnt be able to get my hands on one. but faster than a evo in dirt and corners.
evo VI makinen edition is really not my style, i like the evo VI gsr front with the fog lights better.

overall i like them all. but if its technology wise, i would say the skyline is the awd monster. if you look at it as just a normal awd i say still the skyline with the attesa steering.

[TatII]

omg i just saw the most unusual race just right now online. its on bestmotoring international. it was a snow battle with street R34 GT-R a EVO 6 GSR and a WRX STi. well to my surprise the GT-R did better on the snow with its street setup then i thought i would do. either way the evo burned both of them and the GT-R and STi were a pretty close race. and i also saw a V-Spec II and a V-Spec I drag and the V-Spec II really is a 12 second car. it did a 12.9 second pass when the V-Spec I did a 13 second flat pass.

[Gtr2.7L]

Not so surprising considering the shorter wheelbase of the EVO. I like all three, but for road racing, I'll stick with my '32. 3's and 4's are too heavy, the EVO has a nasty habit of breaking diffs above four hundred HP, and the Subaru like's to drop second above the same.