Non-turbo Supra V.S. Non-turbo Honda

[youngvr4]

i seen with my own 2 eyes a civic hatch beat a non turbo supra by 2 car lengths. i/h/e were his only upgrades he claims

[igota20hpweedeater]

ive made it look like i was racing before but i wasnt...i was just learning how to take off properly in first gear at a traffic light and i churped the tires and the cavalier beside me thought i took off. lol.....i just let him pass me cause i wasnt racing, he probably thinks he beat a 300zx na.

the guy or girl in the supra might have not know how to drive....like me and was just learning how to drive.

but then again dont 93+ na supras do 0-60 in 6.5-6.8???

[integra818]

Non turbo 3-rd gen Supras run mid 15 with a good driver, I did 14.9 at the track with my car. Not every supra is a 10 second car


And yeah, I sure he was racing. Fucker.

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by integra818

And yeah, I sure he was racing. Fucker.

Geez, calm down. You have a lot of anger there considering you claim to have beaten the guy.

[PunkAlex]

people need to learn how to tell a good race story

[integra818]

What the point ot "tellin a story", I raced the guy, I beat him, and suprised myself because I thought they were faster

OK, here goes, I was at a red light, and because of the driving laws we have in california, we both had to stop, when the green light hit I granny launched it and I see him tryin to launch it too, I bone out...and he can't catch me. I noticed how far ahead I was when I was in second gear so I put it in 3rd pretty early (at 7600). Next thing I know, a lady in a rav4 pulls out of her apartment building on to the road at which a supra was getting owned...and to save my ass from bieng on the 10 o' colck news, I suicide laned it and passed her and stopped at the next light. He said "I got to drop something off, wait here and we'll race again" and I replied "man, I don't have time for you, I gotta go" and I left. I got home, ate some breakfast, read a magazine, then logged on to automotiveforums.com and posted a thread about my race...then I took a 1 hour nap, when I woke up and checked what was going on with my newest thread, I found a bunch of FNF kids calling me a liar because supras are the fastest thing in the world and no way a stock GSR will beat it.

The end

[integra818]

Every time a car beats another car that it should'nt have beat, people blame it on the driver saying the losing car would've won if it had a better driver. N/A supras do mid 15 with a good driver, I've already mentioned that, I've also mentioned that I did 14.9 at the track which is faster than mid 15...some of you sound like you need to be reminded that 14.9 is faster than mid 15.

I've also beat an older body Lexus gs300, which has the same engine as the NA supra, if I say I beat a GS300, no one will argue because everyone knows it's a 4door luxury car. BUt if I claim to beat an NA supra(which has the same engine as the SLOW gs300) everyone will doubt me because of the twin turbos Supras reputation. It was a SLOW N/A supra.

[RACER D12]

Now I really think you are either making this up or the supra was NOT racing. I mean you were beating him badly by second? I mean forget your 170hp vs his 220hp. Compare your 128 @ 6200RPMS torque to his 220 @ 3800 RPM! No way you SHOULD have beat him down low period. However he could have sucked at driving and screwed his launch but you never said any of that. You just said it like it was cut and dry you killed him. Im not saying he would beat you in the 1/4mile im saying you would not beat him halfway through second. So in the end he either wasnt racing or your BSing us. Now go ahead and call me a F&F wantabe I dont care, I liked the movie

oh wait let me leave you with a line... "It dosnt matter if you win be an inch or a mile, winnings winnings"... unless the person wasnt racing

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by integra818

What the point ot "tellin a story", I raced the guy, I beat him, and suprised myself because I thought they were faster

OK, here goes, I was at a red light, and because of the driving laws we have in california, we both had to stop, when the green light hit I granny launched it and I see him tryin to launch it too, I bone out...and he can't catch me. I noticed how far ahead I was when I was in second gear so I put it in 3rd pretty early (at 7600). Next thing I know, a lady in a rav4 pulls out of her apartment building on to the road at which a supra was getting owned...and to save my ass from bieng on the 10 o' colck news, I suicide laned it and passed her and stopped at the next light. He said "I got to drop something off, wait here and we'll race again" and I replied "man, I don't have time for you, I gotta go" and I left. I got home, ate some breakfast, read a magazine, then logged on to automotiveforums.com and posted a thread about my race...then I took a 1 hour nap, when I woke up and checked what was going on with my newest thread, I found a bunch of FNF kids calling me a liar because supras are the fastest thing in the world and no way a stock GSR will beat it.

The end

If you'd bother to read, the first comments weren't about a gsr not being able to beat a n/a supra, they asked "where's the story. If fact, SEVERAL TIMES PEOPLE REPEATEDLY ASKED YOU WHERE'S THE STORY.

If you want to tell a street racing story, you can't just forget the sotry and only post the end result. People could give a sh*t of the end result without the story. If you are unable to provide a sotry, many WILL call it a bluff since that makes it less beliveable. If you want to tell a street racing sotry, tell the story, like you finally did above, from the get go. If you leave the story out, don't get all pissy when people ask for a story or question the result. You've provided them with no story of the event at all, just a result, how do you expect them to react...to ask for a story, just like they did.

If you just type result and then bitch at people who ask for the story, how do you expect them to react?

[Thourun]

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[CassiesMan]

What are Tegs bone stock? Mid to low 15s? If your bone stock Teg (or does it have headers? you cant seem to get that straight), out did a Supra, then good job. However, Im gonna go ahead and call BS.

ONE: If you beat him so bad, why didn't you race him again? If your such a bad ass, you shoulda stayed, and 'owned his ass again'

TWO: Stock v Stock, the Supra has the advantage numbers wise. The reason I ask if he was racing or not is because one common act of the ricer culture is to take of hard at teh line, get a good distance on the car, and then say " I pjowned jooooo000o0o0111111!!!11!111!!!1" Shit, I've had kids in bone stock Hyundais do that to me. They take off, I dont know if they are racing, so it seems they won.

So yeah, unless you can offer more proof than "I owned a Supra, stop being an FNF bitch and believe me" then no, you didn't.

Also, everyone else, I appologize for being off on teh Teg numbers. I was being overly generous, trying to give this guy the benefit of the doubt.

Oh, and Integra818, its more F&F to say "My bone stock Integra GSR whuped a Supra" then to call BS on it.

[kman10587]

Even though a stock GS-R is about as fast in the quarter mile as a stock N/A Supra, this thread seems a little fishy to me. You should be beating him at over 6000 RPMs, not by the time you hit second gear.

[integra818]

First of all, I beat him at the end of second, just to clear that up. By the end of second, I'm going about 60 somethin...

Second, I could care less weather some people *that I don't even know* believe my race story or not...I'll still wake up tommorw morning, scratch my balls, and start the day.

Third, Cassies man...I already mentioned my car has a header, just because you did'nt seem to understand it does'nt mean I was'nt clear about it, it was already mentioned earlier in the tread. And what the hell is up with "why did'nt you stay and race agian"...The guy is gonna make a left turn and he's tellin me to wait for him so we can race again...it would be a waste of time because I would get nothing out of beating him again. DO YOU RACE EVERYONE TWICE??? I did'nt launch hard and niether did he, we both rolled off slowly, he tried to pull on me (HE EVEN GOT A JUMP ON ME) and I floored it in first gear as he chased me and was unable to catch up. If I'm such a "badass"?!? Did I ever claim to be a badass??? The supra might have an advantege when you look at the numbers (actually, it might not, I'll look up the numers later) but if you knew anything about racing you'd know that numbers don't mean shit, if I had the same exact car and skill as the driver next to me, but had a 1 MPH advantage the entire race, then I would be 15 feet ahead of him within 10 seconds (1 MPH=1.5 feet per second). My bro drove my car and beat a civic with the same motor as mine, the civic had a 300 LBS advantage but my bro still won to my disbelief. you want proof that I beat him?!? I can't offer proof that I beat him, I raced on the way home and we both went our seperate ways...you want me to hunt him down, tell him to sign up to this message board and admit to a bunch of people that he lost?!?! It would be awaste of time for me and I would get nothing out of suceeding to prove to you that I beat him. So fuck off, you're not that important to me.


It's F&F to say a stock GSR beat a supra?!?! But I did beat a supra



I would'nt care if any of you did'nt belive me, my life would go on because frankly, I don't give a fuck about a bunch of people in other states reading this and calling it bullshit, I have nothing to prove to you, I would'nt waste time to try to prove it to you that I beat him because I would get nothing out of your belief. I got better shit to do than try to earn respect from people who I don't know.


SURE it was a bad driver, even tough a good driver in an NA supra does mid 15 and I ran 14.9...theres no possible way for my car to beat the almighty supra. Not possible.

[integra818]

You wanted numbers cassiesman? heres numbers:

Consumer report.

Na supra weight:3210, HP=220
my cars weight: 2500(weighed last week), stock Hp 170 (not even counting the header)

Supra power to weight ratio: 14.6 LBS per HP
My cars power to weight : 14.7 LBs per HP

...pretty close, but remember, I counted the stock Hp for my car, not the HP including the header...which I have no idea of it's power gains. But as we ALL know (maybe not you)...numbers don't mean shit.

[Mediocrity]

You're awfully defensive for someone who doesn't give a shit, bub.