Let people do their own thing, PLEASE READ

[-Sk8er6811-]

Originally Posted by RaceMySS_454

think about all those people who will never get the chance to build a model or even be on a computer, be glad you have a place to place you opinion and a place to show your work. That should never be disrespected, because we are so lucky to have what we do and the ablility to do what we do, you have a talent here, use it to your ability be creative, and never give up trying new ideas.

thats an excellent point

[lotusmark2]

I to add my voice, I have not been on this forum for that long, but I have nothing but good things to say about its members. I have read posts in other threads and thought hmmm that comment was over the top but in my threads I have had nothing but praise and very helpfull comments.
Thanks to all who have contributed to my threads and to the AF guys and Mods for keeping this place running.

[shieldwulf]

This topic may have hit on a nerve...and it has got to do with how I came into AF and began this hobby with more dedication...

How It Began?
I already liked scale modelling as a hobby when I was like 10 years old. And that was like 20 years ago. During that time I struggle everything by myself because other than the scale model kit instructions which some are in English, the rest of the tools and paints, are mostly Gunze products which are in Japanese labels and instructions, and I don't even know what the hell is a rubbing compound.

How It Ended Thanks to Assholes?
I was a child back then. And the next closest thing to getting advices other than the general departmental stores is to visit hobby shops. In those days, I cannot afford to purchase many of the tools and paints in the shops because they are expensive and I don't know what the hell are their usage anyway. And when I asked around (shop assistant or scale model kit builders), most of them are pretty disinterested to give advice or guidance. I also have the impression that scale model building and painting techniques are a commodity and a secret that the experts are unwilling to share. However, they are all eager to "spit" on your work. I have met some who are sarcastic, condescending and worse of all, unwilling to share their so-called "secrets" with you, to improve on your work which they've "spitted" at.

How It Started Again?
I only began "really" building and painting scale models (and I start with a car) is because I found AF. And I found the FAQs section. And I found virtual friends too. And that was 2 years ago. Today, I hope to continue scale modelling as a hobby, on or off, to the rest of my lifespan. And I promised myself to share as much as I can, from whatever I learnt from others or discover by myself, to others. Unless, I know that person is an "asshole" type (u get what I mean).

One of the greatest inspirations I've got were from some of the moderators here. And P-man, tonioseven and kunta were some of the friendliest experts around (they are many others too).


The Problem of Resistance
Some people, once they have got used to doing something, it becomes a habit and a "standard" of what they do. I do observe that it may be "difficult" for some to accept another way of doing something to achieve the same outcome. It would be alright if they would keep their minds open. But for some, they would attempt to "correct" others, which may still be alright if it is politely presented. And then, there are those who would downright "criticise" for the pure sake of doing it.

And whether it being a public forum, or meeting real people in the public, or in your work place, there will always be all kinds of character, and then there are some which are jerks to others, whether intentionally or not intentionally. Thats a universal law.

Nevetheless, the general virtual "atmosphere" of AF Modelling are of nice people who are willing to share. Nobody wants to be an asshole anyway. Another problem, which is very common, is misunderstanding through the interpretation of statements. And for those few exceptions where clearly behaving as an asshole is their dream career, its where the forum moderators will step in to kick their butts.

[SchuberT]

Originally Posted by shieldwulf

This topic may have hit on a nerve...and it has got to do with how I came into AF and began this hobby with more dedication...
*etc, etc...*

Amen brotha, couldn't have said it better myself...

[jcash1995]

I'm a member of many forums, but I will say that this forum has the BEST atmosphere for acceptance and trying out new ideas. If you truly believe the people on this forum are really close-minded and one-sided, I might suggest visiting other boards to get a feel for how they treat one another. Keep up the great work guys!

"It's just a hobby, don't take it too seriously...............Then it becomes a job"

[GvEman]

I agree totaly... and some times it is better to keep your mout chutt that say what you realy think. but i think that everybody haves the right to say whatever they want to say.

I must say that the maiority here on AF is verry help full and nice to talk to.

[SupaMan89T]

Originally Posted by GvEman

I agree totaly... and some times it is better to keep your mout chutt that say what you realy think. but i think that everybody haves the right to say whatever they want to say.

I must say that the maiority here on AF is verry help full and nice to talk to.

you are right because everybodys comments mean somthing but then again when you dont type a reply back it hurts the owner of that model too.he gets to thinking about what you guys are thinking,trust me ive been there and i dont have the tools or shops to go and buy stuff that i need to make these things look good when i first came here i tryed to impress ppl like many others here on AF and i got hit with "constructive critizim" to make my models look better but really that was the best i could do AF helps and hurts alot of ppl guys we need to try and control that i hope this thread makes some of the new ppl understand the diffrence between "constructive critizim" and "bashing",while teaching them to ignore the bashers.

[tonioseven]

Never try to impress others; try to impress yourself. I kind of agree with what Supratuner/Joey said at the beginning of the thread. It's supposed to be for fun but I guess that went out the window a long time ago around here. I have nothing more to say as it seems kind of pointless.

[Layla's Keeper]

Excellent point Tonio, trying to impress us is just a one way ticket to madness (and not the corner complex at Mid-Ohio, either).

Build the cars that you like, the way you like. If someone can suggest a way to make an honest to god improvement in your models or make the building process easier for you (like the switch from tube glue to liquid cement, or getting a polishing kit with wet sanding cloths) then it pays to listen to their heads up.

But you don't have to get all flustered and fidgety just because someone doesn't like the wheels on your model. Heck, sometimes it's not even because it doesn't look good. I went through a few week period where I was giving Andy Jones grief about using Pegasus wheel sleeves on ALL of his models. I doubt I'm the reason he hasn't been using them as much recently, but it was simply because I thought he was in a rut and was running out of ideas.

Be different, be unique, and be willing to listen to what some of our top guys have to say. We're here to help. You don't have to take that help if you don't want, but getting defensive about folks wanting to help you out isn't going to score you any brownie points either.

[labandabonnot]

What a popular thread!











Thanks to all AF members! I've really improved my english here!


But I'm much more impressed by your !!!!

(thanks for your diversity, skills, kindness and sense of humour too! I can't tape so many english words in a day, so I tried to express myself with few words... I hope I won't be misunderstood! I realise everyday how a wonderfull place AF can be! This thread is just an example of this fact...)

[mike@af]

Seems like my suggestion about putties is earning me lots of friends...

[labandabonnot]

Originally Posted by GTmike400

Seems like my suggestion about putties is earning me lots of friends...

Which thread are you refering to? I haven't seen it...(can't read everything, just 24 hours a day!) But I wonder how a putty suggestion can be taken that bad! I feel it's nice that everybody gives his prefered tools, because brand names and products may vary from countries to others, and it's always good to know "someone has tried this one or this other one, and it works!"...

Misunderstanding or question of mood?...

[Diesel2NR]

I'm with Joey. It has been said before by a moderator in the particular forum that criticism (sp?) should be limited to that which is constructive. How long did that last? I don't think it lasted a day. That's why I don't bother posting much here anymore. No one can do thier own thing without someone trashing it.

[labandabonnot]

99% of the post I read just say and impressive, nice, clean, wonderfull, more pics please, awesome,...
Even when the first poster says that it's the worse kit he's ever made! ( http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=243732 )

[SpoonMan Dos]

I haven't posted on AF in quite a while, but after viewing some of the current posts I see there is quite a bit of bashing going on. I do however, agree that constructive criticism is needed. I wish there was an AF to give me pointers when I first started modeling. I agree with SchuberT, if I don't have any suggestions I don't make any comments.

"That's all I have to say about that." -Forrest Gump