The Battle

[Joseph1082]

Ok, but I don't see any logic to that... a 600HP Supra vs. a 600HP Mustang, both will have comparable top end... there is no reason for the Supra to have this miracle top-end.

[Jimster]

Maybe it'll be more fair if we equipped the office chair with Naawwzzz or maybe quirt it with a fire hose....

[flylwsi]

Originally Posted by 3000ways

Funny? Sorry if you don't have the knowledge to type something informative and opinionated on this discussion.

yeah, b/c you know i've got NO knowledge of this type of stuff.
riiiight...

i think it's a lame thread.
sorry, but you can't compare cars with equal hp and think they're going to be equal like that.

it depends on how they make the power, where they make the power, and what they're designed for.

a road racing car with 600hp vs. a drag car with 600hp are not going to be comparable in a highway run.

and since you jumped on me, you better jump on jimster too, b/c i know that what he posted made all sorts of sense (no offense jim)

[crayzayjay]

Originally Posted by Jimster

Maybe it'll be more fair if we equipped the office chair with Naawwzzz or maybe quirt it with a fire hose....

I'll have you know my Nawzzz equipped garden shed will piss on your office chair any day

[3000ways]

Originally Posted by flylwsi

yeah, b/c you know i've got NO knowledge of this type of stuff.
riiiight...

i think it's a lame thread.
sorry, but you can't compare cars with equal hp and think they're going to be equal like that.

it depends on how they make the power, where they make the power, and what they're designed for.

a road racing car with 600hp vs. a drag car with 600hp are not going to be comparable in a highway run.

and since you jumped on me, you better jump on jimster too, b/c i know that what he posted made all sorts of sense (no offense jim)

Then why read and post, if think it is lame then you don't have to read it, and yes I've seen that road racing car beat many so called drag cars at the track plenty of times. I mean you talk alot like you know crap, but it seems that the more you talk the more it sounds like crap. You say what they are designed for, come on guy think about, these cars are being modified by the owners for drag racing, there not stock anymore so what ever the factory attended is now thrown out the window. Ever heard of that 10 Second modified Tiburon, now I'm quite sure that Hyundia never attended for that car be used for drag racing, but the owner did and was willing to spend the funds, next thing you know, 10 Second Tiburon. Same goes for you Jimster, since you are a moderator, if you think the post is lame, then you don't have to read it, or you could lock it, but stop acting like a foolish child. I've posted this on two other general car forums, and you know what in those forums, we've had discussed what would happend, guess the maturity level is just that much greater in those forums than this one.

[3000ways]

Since a road racing car will not be comparable to a drag car, check out this thread I put up in the video section, it's a Supra with twice as much mods (probably over $20,000 worth) as the EVO, yet the EVO runs a faster time with a faster speed-

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=225860

[flylwsi]

you neglect to mention the other factors, but that's ok.

why read and post?
why not.
it's a free site, i'm allowed to post, no?

it's totally about maturity level...

you preface your thread with a 2f2f intro, and you want us to take it seriously?

come on...

LIGHTEN UP!!!!!

[3000ways]

You know what, I'm still not done. Let me explain to you flywisi or whatever your name is and Jimster, it's a freaking simple thread, all I'm asking is between the four cars previously mentioned in the thread and with the modifications aldo previously mentioned, who would win a drag race? If that's to hard for you to answer and think about then please I ask you do not post then, cuz I'm not asking you about a guy in a lawn chair or if this the premise for the fast and furious 3, I'm asking who do you think would win the race? I see you have jokes, as do I and they'd probably get me banned from this site, if you've seen my name on other forums you know what I'm talking about, ask the SRT-4 forum, but you as a moderator I would expect you to set a better example. Now onto what this thread was posted for in the first place, I hate it when things are underestimated, I believe that the EVO for one is underestimated, you say that the car is not designed for drag racing, foolish, the car is designed for whatever you want it to do, that's why it's such a great car. An example I'm using was used before, but it just the first example I can use of this car and believe me there will be many more in the near future. The One Lap Of America Race, the Vishnu EVO placed 5th place overall and 1st in it's class, impressive, especially with the very tough competetion (many were factory backed) it faced during the races. But what impressed me the most about this Vishnu EVO (one of the least modified in the races) was that this car beat out all 79 competitors in the 1/4 mile drag race, yes all 79, yes the EVO placed 1st in the drag racing portion. That means the EVO beat out Factory backed Vipers and SRT-10 Rams, Turbocharged and Supercharged C5 Corvettes, 600WHP Porsche 911 Turbos, heavily modified and factory backed Porsche 911 GT3 and the list grows and grows. Yes 1st place, of course you could argue and say that these cars were modified more in the handling department and etc. for racing, the 1/4 mile race wasn't as important, but the same can be said for the EVO, which like I said also placed 5th overall out 80 cars, and 1st in it's class (At times recording faster laps than the factory backed 911 GT-3 and 911 Turbo and factory backed Vipers, in one race the EVO recorded the fastest lap, by a whopping 6 SECONDS!!!!) What is the EVO and the EVO MR designed for? Anything you want!

[flylwsi]

paragraphs hurt heads...

you need to calm down.
seriously.
whatever my name is?
scroll for a second and spell it right, it's not difficult.

i'm well aware of the one lap evo, and kept up on it.
i'm a stout evo defender, but they're not top end cars.
they top out at 156.
mustangs, supras, etc. don't.

so if you want to call out the highway race, kiss it goodbye.

if you want to drag race, take the mustang with 600hp.
if you want it on the road course, take the evo

the m3 would be a good second for the road course, then mustang, then supra.

drag strip:
mustang, evo, supra, m3 (m3 and supra could be flipped if you want, depends on weight, really)

highway...
supra, mustang, m3, evo

well...
i answered the question 3 ways, assuming these cars are "all around" setups, not just straightliners...

[3000ways]

Originally Posted by flylwsi

paragraphs hurt heads...

you need to calm down.
seriously.
whatever my name is?
scroll for a second and spell it right, it's not difficult.

i'm well aware of the one lap evo, and kept up on it.
i'm a stout evo defender, but they're not top end cars.
they top out at 156.
mustangs, supras, etc. don't.

so if you want to call out the highway race, kiss it goodbye.

if you want to drag race, take the mustang with 600hp.
if you want it on the road course, take the evo

the m3 would be a good second for the road course, then mustang, then supra.

drag strip:
mustang, evo, supra, m3 (m3 and supra could be flipped if you want, depends on weight, really)

highway...
supra, mustang, m3, evo

well...
i answered the question 3 ways, assuming these cars are "all around" setups, not just straightliners...

Thank you, that's all I asked for.

[Joseph1082]

Ok, so now we are sayin that a 600HP Supra is a course car while a 600HP Mustang is a drag car... ok, this makes no sense. Most guys I know talk about Supra's going fast in the 1/4... that makes it a drag car... second, the Supra and the Mustang are very COMPARABLE cars in ALL aspects, the Supra is no more of a course car than the Mustang which is no more of a drag car than the Supra... nobody can tell me the difference because there is none.

[Jimster]

Originally Posted by 3000ways

Then why read and post, if think it is lame then you don't have to read it, and yes I've seen that road racing car beat many so called drag cars at the track plenty of times. I mean you talk alot like you know crap, but it seems that the more you talk the more it sounds like crap. You say what they are designed for, come on guy think about, these cars are being modified by the owners for drag racing, there not stock anymore so what ever the factory attended is now thrown out the window. Ever heard of that 10 Second modified Tiburon, now I'm quite sure that Hyundia never attended for that car be used for drag racing, but the owner did and was willing to spend the funds, next thing you know, 10 Second Tiburon. Same goes for you Jimster, since you are a moderator, if you think the post is lame, then you don't have to read it, or you could lock it, but stop acting like a foolish child. I've posted this on two other general car forums, and you know what in those forums, we've had discussed what would happend, guess the maturity level is just that much greater in those forums than this one.

Yes, I think this thread is rather silly, ever seen a 650 whp Mustang go up against a 700 whp Supra and a M3 and Evo 8? I haven't and I can't recall anybody ever seeing it. The obvious answer to this thread is it depends on the driver, but really, I am not going to lose sleep over a race with imaginary cars and a 2F2F setting...

[Kurtdg19]

3000, I wouldn't get frustrated with flylwsi. By now you should realize how much of a critic about everything he is. Its not worth trying to decipher his broken writing skills and replies with no logical means of structure.

As far as this comparo, I agree that its a bit silly. How can you assume anything when you have no idea how they perform? I'll agree with Jimster and go with the office chair. Lets make it an office chair with a 5' wing on the back. Crap, I forgot the stickers that add 10 extra hp.

[3000ways]

Originally Posted by Kurtdg19

3000, I wouldn't get frustrated with flylwsi. By now you should realize how much of a critic about everything he is. Its not worth trying to decipher his broken writing skills and replies with no logical means of structure.

As far as this comparo, I agree that its a bit silly. How can you assume anything when you have no idea how they perform? I'll agree with Jimster and go with the office chair. Lets make it an office chair with a 5' wing on the back. Crap, I forgot the stickers that add 10 extra hp.

I shall not get that frustrated anymore your right, just tried to do something different. I thought more people knew more about modifying, I guess not, well I guess I just am an active track particpant, have an active imagination, and I am majoring journalism in college, all played a factor in me doing this. I mean I understand what Jimster is saying, not sure if he is into drag racing, but believe me this scenerio is very likely and just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happend. I've seen a 600WHP Supra go against a 500WHP Mach 1 (Supra Lost), and just last week at the drag strip, perhaps the best race I ever saw was between a mid 11 second Buick Grand National and a low 12 Second EVO. I figured the EVO might have a chance because it would get the jump, and I know the GN driver wasn't use to being behind at any point in a race. Anyhow EVO got the jump and almost held off the GN, but it just barely nipped the EVO to the finish. I think the Buick GN ran 11.9 to EVO 12.2. So yeah Jimster hit up the tracks and you'll be surprised of what races you see.

[flylwsi]

Originally Posted by Kurtdg19

3000, I wouldn't get frustrated with flylwsi. By now you should realize how much of a critic about everything he is. Its not worth trying to decipher his broken writing skills and replies with no logical means of structure.

As far as this comparo, I agree that its a bit silly. How can you assume anything when you have no idea how they perform? I'll agree with Jimster and go with the office chair. Lets make it an office chair with a 5' wing on the back. Crap, I forgot the stickers that add 10 extra hp.

broken writing skills and no logical means of structure?
what's broken about it?
you can easily understand everything i type, no?

for someone whose opinion i respect, i think that's a bit on the uncalled for side of the spectrum.

i've told everyone on this forum how i am, and yeah, i'm a critic.
so are alot of people.
get over it... it's just the internet...
if you seriously get bent out of shape b/c of something i typed, i'd hate to see how you'd deal with something more serious (that's not pointed at anyone here specifically, just a generalized statement)