SL to VR4?

[Vinny03]

but the one im talkin bout comes with tranny awd kit and everything else

[Vinny03]

also if u tt a fwd u gonna go thru tires like crazy and its gonna be very hard to drive in the rain his car had alot of power already n hes gotten into bout 2-3 accidents

[Hotshot8792]

Originally Posted by Vinny03

also if u tt a fwd u gonna go thru tires like crazy and its gonna be very hard to drive in the rain his car had alot of power already n hes gotten into bout 2-3 accidents

dont launch the car and you dont have to worry about tires, its not that hard to daily drive a FWD car without spinning out

in fact, on mine, i dont have that bad traction problems, i wont spin out unless i do a brake boost launch with enough boost built up.

[Vinny03]

he has manual shifter

[Stealthee]

Yup plenty of people daily drive there twin turbos. And vinny there is no "AWD kit" Bob the Great over on 3si is one of the only KNOWN AWD conversions. IT takes A LOT of fabbing and skills to make a FWD car into a AWD. Also whoever your talking about thats been in 2-3 accidents needs to learn how to drive.

[Technical_Automan]

Well it is a waste of money b/c w/ the cost of doing it you could buy one thats done already w/ more features. And w/ the $1000 you would spend on a lsd, think what you could buy for your tt awd. didnt hotshot do a tt swap, how much did he spend? just curious.

[Hotshot8792]

Originally Posted by Technical_Automan

Well it is a waste of money b/c w/ the cost of doing it you could buy one thats done already w/ more features. And w/ the $1000 you would spend on a lsd, think what you could buy for your tt awd. didnt hotshot do a tt swap, how much did he spend? just curious.

$2,000 including all the gauges, fuel management, and a custom exhaust. Autos dont need an LSD for a tt conversion because the stress levels on autos are a lot less on the launches. I finally put an LSD insert because of more upgrades, and the insert cost me $200, $150 for the high-stall torque converter, and $70 for the shift kit, did all the labor myself which saved TONS of money. But back to the original question, i wasn't even originally planning to do this. I bought this car 4 years ago, and then 2 years ago the tt conversion was finally discovered, and i found out about all the auto breaking times that the DSM crowd has, in fact they have autos that are in the 9 seconds now. I decided to give it a shot after kunal finally made the first successful automatic twin turbo, and i just wanted to experiment with the auto tranny. Since a year and a half ago after i got it done, only bad thing that has happened to the car was the end clutch went out when i was just driving it normally, but other than that, its treated me well.

[Stealthee]

Think about it this way. Get an insurance quote on an AWD TT. No get an insurance quote on a SL. There is going be a decent difference. You are already saving money right there. As already said a FWD TT has MAJOR potential to be faster than a AWD TT. IPO is on the verge of breaking the 3/s record in his FWD single turbo set up running lower boost and not having the advantage of a AWD launch. He has less than 10k into the entire car including purchase price. I want to see some one do that with a AWD TT.

[Vinny03]

jdmenginedepot.com awd kit means its the awd assecories also he doesnt need to learn how to drive all his accidents were honest the latest was on a turn his inside front tire blew out and he hit to rails not hard to do the other was a little rim prob when he was losing traction on a turn

[Stealthee]

Originally Posted by Vinny03

jdmenginedepot.com awd kit means its the awd assecories also he doesnt need to learn how to drive all his accidents were honest the latest was on a turn his inside front tire blew out and he hit to rails not hard to do the other was a little rim prob when he was losing traction on a turn

If thats the case then AWD wouldnt have saved him. I have read plenty of threads of AWD cars loosing control because of over steering or even tire blowouts. And there are no AWD kits, period. In order to add AWD to a non AWD you have to add the entire rear sub section. Read up on it on 3si. And any time you get anything JDM they can ONLY send the front half of the car. The car is cut in half so you are not getting everything you would need for a AWD conversion.

[Technical_Automan]

Originally Posted by Hotshot8792

$2,000 including all the gauges, fuel management, and a custom exhaust. Autos dont need an LSD for a tt conversion because the stress levels on autos are a lot less on the launches. I finally put an LSD insert because of more upgrades

Sorry I was thinking about manual you would need LSD, didn't even think about auto. But that's awesome that you did all that. Don't you get wheelhop with that LSD insert, or is it not the one that makes it permenant posi? Sure it has it's advantages (insurance cost, top speed), but the point i'm trying to get across is that for all the work and money involved in the conversion you're probably better off buying a VR4 and modding that. It depends though, if you can do all that for $2000 like hotshot, don't mind taking the time, and if you got your 3S cheap then it would be well worth it.

[Stealthee]

A LSD reduces wheel hop, not increases it.

[talskinyguy]

Originally Posted by Stealthee

If thats the case then AWD wouldnt have saved him. I have read plenty of threads of AWD cars loosing control because of over steering or even tire blowouts. And there are no AWD kits, period. In order to add AWD to a non AWD you have to add the entire rear sub section. Read up on it on 3si. And any time you get anything JDM they can ONLY send the front half of the car. The car is cut in half so you are not getting everything you would need for a AWD conversion.

Most of the time when you get a front clip of a VR4 you get the whole drivetrain with it. That includes the rear sub assembly with AWS, the brakes, rear end, ect.

[Stealthee]

No I am sorry but that is wrong. It is ILLEGAL to sell anything more than the front clip. The only other thing that may come with it is the transfer case and possibly driveshaft.

[Hotshot8792]

Originally Posted by Stealthee

Think about it this way. Get an insurance quote on an AWD TT. No get an insurance quote on a SL. There is going be a decent difference. You are already saving money right there. As already said a FWD TT has MAJOR potential to be faster than a AWD TT. IPO is on the verge of breaking the 3/s record in his FWD single turbo set up running lower boost and not having the advantage of a AWD launch. He has less than 10k into the entire car including purchase price. I want to see some one do that with a AWD TT.

true, but most people wont completely gut their car including the gas tank and put in a 2 gallon fuel cell to have their car down to 2300 lbs, plus IPO is a good driver.

As far as actually doing a conversion or swap, it depends on if all the costs and time doing it is worth it to you. IN MOST CASES, the final cost does come out to the cost of selling your car and buying a vr-4, but there are some cases where it doesn't. It all depends on what you want.