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[RSX-S777]

If the MR2 has 220 hp I will eat my own foot...more like 138. And comparing an MR2 to a $32,800 S2000 powerplant is even more pointless than comparing it to the Acura RSX.

[crazy_canuck]

Yeah, the MR2 is 138 hp and 125 tq. My lawnmower puts out more power, even though its a manually operated one

[jajimo]

Hence the "does what, 220" that was to signify my lack of confidence in the number.

I was saying he should compare the MR2 and S2000 because of their similarities as far as body go (as well as the fact they are both RWD). I never said the power plant should be his deciding factor.

[RSX-S777]

Ok, I misunderstood. You realize that after you said that, somewhere out there, some poor S2000 owner probably jumped in front of a bus. (Or tried to jump in front of Canuck's lawn mower... )

[Chamiltor]

The difference in horsepower really doesn't make that much of a difference, I don't know how much an S2000 weighs, but isn't the MR2 lighter? I know the handling kills it also. When you think about how awesome a car is, you gotta look at the whole picture. The S2000 starts at like 32,000. The MR2 is 26,000. The RSX is (for what I priced it at) $24,163. THe MR2 is lighter than the others, plus it is mid-engine. The weight distribution is a lot different. I also need the car for a daily driver. Handling + Acceleration + Top Speed + Reliability all need to play a factor in this decision. That isn't even close to how whole the picture could be.

[RSX-S777]

If handling, acceleration, top speed and reliability are your main concerns, the RSX and S2000 still both beat the MR2. If you plan to drive in any inclement weather, the RSX is the best of the three. Don't get hung up on weights of each car in relation to the others. Their individual weights (obviously) are all factored into their engineering/tuning. It's sounds like you really like the MR2. If thats the case you should buy one- it's a nice little car in its own right. But in comparison..well, there is really no comparison.

[sidrone]

imho Toyota as a manufacturer is more reliable than Honda... and so the MR2 is more reliable than the RSX or the S2000

[RSX-S777]

Originally Posted by sidrone

imho Toyota as a manufacturer is more reliable than Honda... and so the MR2 is more reliable than the RSX or the S2000

Bullshit. What statistics are you using to back up that statement??? You must be a Toyota owner, right?

[sidrone]

Originally Posted by RSX-S777

You must be a Toyota owner, right?

no.. Honda Accord actually...

[sidrone]

Originally Posted by RSX-S777

Bullshit. What statistics are you using to back up that statement???

I have no statistics to back that up... just my opinion, based only on the fact that while both of these manufacturers are considered to make very reliable cars and Toyota has been making cars longer than Honda. So I believe they had more time to perfect the reliability of their vehicles.

[sidrone]

I wanted to see what people will say... so I made this poll:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=219707

[RSX-S777]

Even if you could possibly determine with certainty that one car manufacturer was more reliable than another (which is subject to interpretation), each car, especially models with newly introduced engineering advances, has to be regarded as a solitary entity. Not to mention factoring in individual driver habits, maintenance schedules etc...

[crazy_canuck]

sidrone, I can't disagree with you more. They're both top notch in terms of reliability, and each model has its own pros and cons. Plus, Ford was the first ever car company. Look at what they have! They should be the best vehicles out there. I am sorry, but thats a horrible argument. The poll doesn't solve it either - there could be more Honda or Toyota owners.

And actually, the S2K and RSX have a proven track record. I think the MR2 does too, but I don't really track the MR2 that much.

[Chamiltor]

All signs point to RSX I guess. It is the cheapest out of the three. I guess there is more that could be done to it. I do kind of like the MR2 more for some reason. Maybe its just 'cause I like the Elise so much. I seems to be the most comparable to it and half the price. I have a while to save so we'll see if anything else in this price range has more potential in the near future.

[sidrone]

yea, you're right, i'm wrong with comparing honda to toyota in reliability...

and the first car with an internal combustion engine was made by Diamler & Benz therefore Mercedes-Benz is the first car company