Some Ebay Intakes Are Illegal

[RandomTask]

RocketDSM, Excellent posts

VA doesn't have any emmisions checks (thank god) and is pretty laid back towards ricers and what not. The only thing they tend not to like are neon underbody kits as well as those snake eyes for you windshield wipers. However, if you were to get pulled over (most likely from one of the latter offenses or speeding etc) and the officer sees a nitrous tank in your back seat, im pretty sure he would cut you a ticket for that. Some may argue that the officer has to have a warrant, but they can search your car on probable cause. If the officer asks to search you car, then he probably doesn't have a cause, your always entitled to say 'no'. If he truely wants to search it, he will find a way. I would imagine another reason that california state sets up these road blocks are for public safety. Most people do race their cars on the street. I know of 2 deaths within the last year of ricers racing. One bystander, and one racer. It is possible. I have always suggested that people race at the track. (and let the numbers do the talking) but I have raced people on the street. Yes, environmetalist play the major role in this subject. Search through a jegs catalogue and you can see some of the parts have '50 state legal' decals next to their pictures and I believe it will list you the CARB ##

[Passivality]

Personally, i Live in maryland, we are aloud to have nitrous tanks in the back of our cars, aslong as they arn't directly hooked up to the engine while driving it on the streets. So, you simply just "turn off" your bottle by twisting it and pull out the feed line and your street legal, buit underglow is illegal here moving but fine when parked, and from most of my friends in the racing scene here, no one has gotten a ticked for intakes, mostly just tickets to go to emmisions because there exhausts are loud.

[Phillyblunt]

I got my AEM @ Cox Imports. What do you guys think about Cox. I enjoyed my expierience and they had competitive prices!

[Phillyblunt]

All I am saying I am soooooo glad I do not live in California. I live in Florida where they do not even check emmissions to begin with. Bare in mind though you have to have a cat or you get a big fine, but that is only if the EPA agent pulls you over. He or she is the only one who can write the ticket. California emission laws are just gay. They make you bend head over heels to pass emissions when ironically the software companies pollute more. Yet the motorists are the scapegoat. Lets see, if I was California Governor or in Cali "THE GOVENATOR" who would I tax and put the blame on, the motorists or the 80 billion dollar tax revenue software manufacturers. You don't piss off your bread and butter so the motorists fit the bill!

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Originally Posted by Phillyblunt

All I am saying I am soooooo glad I do not live in California. I live in Florida where they do not even check emmissions to begin with. Bare in mind though you have to have a cat or you get a big fine, but that is only if the EPA agent pulls you over. He or she is the only one who can write the ticket. California emission laws are just gay. They make you bend head over heels to pass emissions when ironically the software companies pollute more. Yet the motorists are the scapegoat. Lets see, if I was California Governor or in Cali "THE GOVENATOR" who would I tax and put the blame on, the motorists or the 80 billion dollar tax revenue software manufacturers. You don't piss off your bread and butter so the motorists fit the bill!

Their laws are gay? Do you understand how much pollution/smog California has? Those laws are there for a reason.

[drdisque]

the laws don't do anything to materially affect pollution though

[RocketDSM]

To say that something is "gay" isn't relevant. If you have an issue with a law or regulation - state it and stick to facts.

Fact is that the smog laws have done a GREAT deal for the California Air Quality. There hasn't been a Stage 1 Smog Alert in the Los Angeles area in decades. Most people don't even remember the days of Smog Alerts. They got the job done.

I take departure at how they regulate the pollution and to whom they subject the smog laws upon.

Just recently, the California Legislature passed a bill changing who is exempt and who isn't. It is now stated that all vehicles 35 years old and older will be exempt, up to the hard limit of model year 1976. This used to be that all vehicles 30 years old and older were exempted, with no cap. Us "gearheads" know that we generally take care of our cars, and especially the older ones. When a car is properly tuned, even without specific emissions equipment, the emissions levels are almost neglible. So why the change to a static year rather than the previous rolling exemption? Makes no sense to me.

The laws keep getting more and more strict on what levels of emissions are allowed. If the laws are there to protect the environment and ourselves, how can the standards change? Did we become less resilient and require cleaner air now versus two years ago? Last I checked the process of evolution doesn't make things more vulnerable.

Currently, a manufacturer has a level of emissions allowed for their total model selection. This is why companies like GM (Chevy specifically) carry so many super friendly anti-pollution models (Aveo for one). This balances out the Corvette.

Same type of system applies to the average MPG across the entire model selection. GM has to maintain a certain MPG for their entire lineup. Again, cars like the Aveo making up the difference for the actually desireable and - heaven forbid - FUN vehicles we actually want.

The smog laws are a good idea that has accomplished a lot. The problem is that the system hasn't opened as much as would actually help the auto enthusiasts - and it continues to strangle what life is left in our crowd with tighter controls. In my opinion, it is a good IDEA with piss-poor execution and management.

[MechanicInTraining]

No nitrous bottles? Thats when you hide them somewhere they cant search Why do they do these things anyway? All the laws seem kind of stupid.

[a1waytrip]

seriously? only in cali modding your car's is legal... phew... i was kinda concerned for a while, cause i never even thought that modding your car could be illigal, because it is your peice of property. this country is going to hell ... yea the pricks who make these laws have enough money to drive around ferrari's and don't want some guy/gal with a lesser value car to kick there a$$ in a race... just my opinion though...