mach1 or lt1 trans am?

[DkShadow]

I dont see how the T/A would win. Ive seen Mach 1s click off 13.3 stock and 12.9s with just X-pipe and shifter. Unless Im missing something here...

[FormulaLT1]

Well lets look into what your missing

OK
96 LT1 WS6 Trans AM
Horsepower - 305
Torque - 335
0 - 60 - 5.3 -5.5
1/4 - 13.9 -14.1
Mods -
Catback Exhaust - 15 - 20 Horsepower- .2 -1/4
Headers - 30 Horsepower (stock headers on LT1's are very restrictive and always yield 30 + on the dyno) - .3 1/4
K&N CAI - 19 rear wheel horsepower (dyno proven)
- .2 1/4
Shift Kit I'm assuming transgo cause almost everything else is a waste of money at least - .2 1/4

New Horsepower rating - Min 369
New Torque - Min 350 +
1/4 13.0 - 13.2


03 Mustang Mach 1

Horsepower - 305
Torque- 320
0-60 5.3 -5.5
1/4 Your number 13.3 but most people state 13.6 +

Your right you are missing something

[DkShadow]

Since when does KnN and Flows gain over 30hp??

Oh and I didnt read that it had headers... Hmmm... If thats the case then it should be a drivers race...

Oh and the mach 1 is underrated. It makes around 280 to the rears.

Originally Posted by FormulaLT1

Well lets look into what your missing

OK
96 LT1 WS6 Trans AM
Horsepower - 305
Torque - 335
0 - 60 - 5.3 -5.5
1/4 - 13.9 -14.1
Mods -
Catback Exhaust - 15 - 20 Horsepower- .2 -1/4
Headers - 30 Horsepower (stock headers on LT1's are very restrictive and always yield 30 + on the dyno) - .3 1/4
K&N CAI - 19 rear wheel horsepower (dyno proven)
- .2 1/4
Shift Kit I'm assuming transgo cause almost everything else is a waste of money at least - .2 1/4

New Horsepower rating - Min 369
New Torque - Min 350 +
1/4 13.0 - 13.2


03 Mustang Mach 1

Horsepower - 305
Torque- 320
0-60 5.3 -5.5
1/4 Your number 13.3 but most people state 13.6 +

Your right you are missing something

[FormulaLT1]

If you read you would see K&N intake which includes a less restrictive intake duct a 9 inch cone K&N filter that hangs under the front fender and yes it has been proven time and time again to yield 19 to the wheels which even if you calculate for drivetrain loss where do you get 30 from that number

[DkShadow]

Originally Posted by FormulaLT1

If you read you would see K&N intake which includes a less restrictive intake duct a 9 inch cone K&N filter that hangs under the front fender and yes it has been proven time and time again to yield 19 to the wheels which even if you calculate for drivetrain loss where do you get 30 from that number

Hmm... Just to make sure... are we talking ricer intake or manifold? If its like the KnN PIFK, its been dyno proven to make 1-2 hp on most Stangs.


And... you said....

Catback Exhaust - 15 - 20 Horsepower - .2 -1/4
K&N CAI - 19 rear wheel horsepower (dyno proven) - .2 1/4



So add em up...

[FormulaLT1]

The LT1 CAI which is the also referred to as the K&N intake is far more productive on LT1's do some research , one way GM detuned the F-body's to have less horse was with the restrictive intake

[DkShadow]

Originally Posted by FormulaLT1

The LT1 CAI which is the also referred to as the K&N intake is far more productive on LT1's do some research , one way GM detuned the F-body's to have less horse was with the restrictive intake

Why would I reasearch mods on a car that I dont own?

[FormulaLT1]

Because if your going to give biased info you should at least have some type of facts to back it up

[hungryJonJon]

Originally Posted by Ace$nyper

I think that it would be the Mach 1 by a bit.

Agree

[DkShadow]

Originally Posted by FormulaLT1

Because if your going to give biased info you should at least have some type of facts to back it up

What biased info? The info where I dont believe that a CAI gives you 19rwhp or a gain of 20+ on a catback? It just doesnt add up to me. Obviously different cars react to different mods but Ive never heard of a 19rwhp gain from a CAI!

Threadstarter what kind of midpipe is the LT1 using? Long tubes or Shorty headers?

[DkShadow]

F*ck it... just race. Who gives a shit about other peoples opinion. Get off your lazy ass and race. E-Racing is stupid and not everything happens like its on paper. So GO RACE!

[hungryJonJon]

Mach 1 has more HP and better gearing. it should win unless the driver is horrible.

[GTStang]

All those HP and ET gains I see are very optomistic IMO.

[DkShadow]

Originally Posted by GTStang

All those HP and ET gains I see are very optomistic IMO.

Which is why I made this post

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...6&postcount=26


Theres no point in these threads, itll just give different opinions. Just go and race and post results.

[91StangLX]

Originally Posted by z28 boy

With headers and everything? I don't know i guess i am just biest to the f-body.

Yep I had an F-body once..... Then I got a job!!! :-)~

For Real though, I think the Mach 1 would come out a little short on this race... If the Trans has all the mods stated and the Mach 1 was stock that is... Now if the Mach 1 had simular mods... It would be a whole different story...

Those Trans am are fast I ran against one at my last track outing and had my back side handed me... I ran 12.23 and he ran 11.88...