Beating a Mach 1

[GTStang]

Sorry guys the stays up. Although you guys all put up good points I'm not argueing that he can't beat a Mach1 or a 96 Cobra with 4.10's . What I'm saying is losing to a Mach1 by a car length or so and then destroying a 96 Cobra wit 4.10's is so inconsistent it's reeks of BS. Even if the Cobra was a bad motor from the factory, or it was showing mileage age the 4.10's would make up for that. If he said he beat the Cobra by by a slightly larger margin than the Mach1 at the end fine or if the Cobra sat and spun out a ton etc.., You can say I'm a being a baised Ford owner but you can look at what I posted in the Mustang Forum about this race when he posted. I'm just stating logical facts that you know wether you want to hear them or not are true.

[Hypsi87]

Originally Posted by khris barger

Hay gtstang dont get your panties in a bunch because it tacks forced induction for a stang to beat a LS1 besides who would drive a pony car any way's

Who cares if it is forced induction.... and seeing how you are new here, I would not be so fast to shoot of a flame towards someone just because they have a different view on the matter. GTstang knows his stuff so just chill.

[z28 boy]

I don't care if u don't beleive me. I have 100 dollars in my pocket now. The guy has dynoed his cobra and it only had 28o hp. It has about 120,000 miles. He works on the car himself. He is a technician at our local ford house. He rebuilt his tranny not to long ago. If u think that is cheap on my part for racing him, then he shouldn't have asked me to race.

[Genopsyde]

yea, brush them haters off.

[89IROC&RS]

yeah, not to fuel an argument, but the fact that the cobra had 4.10 gears means nothing. i havent spared with you personaly, but hypsi thinks you know your stuff, so to me that means you do, but i have to point out that your talking about those gears like they mean everything. kinda like a civic owner would say that his three foot tall wing makes all the difference in the world. as any racer can tell you, there are many variables that could effect the outcome of those races. maybe the cobra has a loose spark plug thats throwing it off. i just think that its kinda high and mighty to throw out the BS flag when all you have to say is that it has 4.10 gears, and therefore should be much faster than he said it was. unless you were there, or know that car, or the driver, thats a pretty pompus thing to do in my opinion. just thought id bring that up.

[Genopsyde]

Booya!

[daveshapellSVT]

Yea, the cobra should be a better contender cause its producing the same power as the mach 1 and it's sporting 4:10's.. I'm begining to think that the dude can't drive. And it deffinatly does not take forced induction to beat an LS1.. The camaro,stock, runs 13.5 or so, the cobra runs 13.9.. So with some minor bolt ons the 96 Cobra should match or beat the camaro... this kid has mods done to his camaro, and the mach 1 was keeping up so obviously force induction is a cocky statment.. Just for your information, a 2001 Cobra with a procharger set at 8psi can run in the 11's.. I like my 99 Cobra better than a trans am or camaro cause i feel they are built better and have better top end, as proven in that race, but i still respect F-body's.. No need to trash other ppl's rides..

[youngvr4]

Originally Posted by 89IROC&RS

yeah, not to fuel an argument, but the fact that the cobra had 4.10 gears means nothing. i havent spared with you personaly, but hypsi thinks you know your stuff, so to me that means you do, but i have to point out that your talking about those gears like they mean everything. kinda like a civic owner would say that his three foot tall wing makes all the difference in the world. as any racer can tell you, there are many variables that could effect the outcome of those races. maybe the cobra has a loose spark plug thats throwing it off. i just think that its kinda high and mighty to throw out the BS flag when all you have to say is that it has 4.10 gears, and therefore should be much faster than he said it was. unless you were there, or know that car, or the driver, thats a pretty pompus thing to do in my opinion. just thought id bring that up.

i agree, there are just too many possible reasons why it coulda happen that way

[z28 boy]

98-00 Z28's are rated at 305 hp as is the Mach1. They are both said to be underated. Mach 1 is underated by about 10-15 hp this has been dyno proven now an ls1 has been know to be underated by alot more. check this guys Z28 with dyno sheets to prove it. 13.2 bone stock @ 105mph.(http://joshker99.home.comcast.net/98z28.htm)

[GTStang]

Originally Posted by 89IROC&RS

yeah, not to fuel an argument, but the fact that the cobra had 4.10 gears means nothing. i havent spared with you personaly, but hypsi thinks you know your stuff, so to me that means you do, but i have to point out that your talking about those gears like they mean everything. kinda like a civic owner would say that his three foot tall wing makes all the difference in the world. as any racer can tell you, there are many variables that could effect the outcome of those races. maybe the cobra has a loose spark plug thats throwing it off. i just think that its kinda high and mighty to throw out the BS flag when all you have to say is that it has 4.10 gears, and therefore should be much faster than he said it was. unless you were there, or know that car, or the driver, thats a pretty pompus thing to do in my opinion. just thought id bring that up.

I know what a 96 Cobra can do compared to a Mach1. I know what a 4V Cobra can do with 4.10's or better yet what it can do a Mach1. Drive a 4V Mod motor with the stock gears and then with 4.10's. Then you'll understand why 4.10's are more important to a 4V Cobra motor than regular push-rod V8.

Next if this guy was a Ford Tech I would expect his car to be running in good shape and know if the car was off. But even if he didn't, your talking about things that would cause a small let down in 1320 times. Nothing that would explain gettin destroyed.

[z28 boy]

Look bro I know what and happened i am sory u don't believe it. The guy even said that he knew that he wasn't going to catch me so he said he eventually gave up. His cobra has been beaten by an Lt1 twice before. Lt1 had American thunder exhaust from flowmaster and some kind of chip. I am not saying that it can't be fast its just u are calling bullshit and u weren't there. He had the fastest regular car until the first Ls1 rolled into town. he hasn't been able to beat one of us yet. My boy drives a 02 A4 z28 and he beat the other cobra in town also a 96 manual with same mods except he has a chip and dual camber flowmaster. All that Z has is 80 series flowmaster. I have beat that Z before. I am not saying u are wrong cause obviously u know ur shit. It sucks that u don't belive me but it happend

[z28 boy]

I dont remember if gears are the same but they are after market.

[flex339]

Well no matter how good the car is it has to be driven well to be fast. The two cars are "similar" in power ratings so the driver determines the race in these cases. Congrats on winning a $100.

[-Josh-]

Well, i actually have to agree with Stang on this one. Racing a quarter mile, both of the stangs have the same amount of power, that's agreed. But he's saying that a car that was geared for the eighth mile(4.10) pulled on him, while the car that was actually geared for the quarter(3.55) lost by 2 1/2 car lengths. It is kind of suspicious.

[z28 boy]

I think u got ur facts back words. the car with the 4.10's I tore up the one with the 3.55's i bearly beat.
I got the guy geared for the 1/8 mile and the one that pulled on me is the geared for the 1/4. I don't see why yall don't understand. The cobra is old it has been raced like a mother trucker. This guy has been racing it since he got it a few years ago. He bought the thing used. It has been beat by an lt1 so what makes u think that i can't spank it. The Mach 1 is brand spankin new. So what u are saying is that the older car with 120,000 miles actually stands a better chance than the new one. I just don't see how. Both of the stangs had the same amount of power. The cobra is old bro. And like the driver said some times ur car runs like shit and some times it kicks ass.