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Old 02-13-2004, 03:26 AM
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hondata isnt that much doesnt s afc run like 450 same has hondata s200 with boost option so whats the problem he wont need a fuel pump or internales boosting so little and lowering the compression will make you spool slower dont lower the compression unless your gonna boost alot and build you whole motor
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It all really depends. Detonation is the number one killer of a turbo-charged engine. My suggestion would be to replace your internals and lower the compression ratio to 9:1 or lower. Sure you can get away with 10:1 with good fuel management and good tuning but one bad batch of fuel will send your engine to the scrap yard. A good intercooler is always a good idea. Depending on how much boost you want to run you might want to upgrade the injectors and pump. For fuel management I would go with the Hondata, it might be expensive but they what they are doing. Personally I think the Apexi unit is crap and I would never buy it after looking into a ton of fuel management systems. Don't forget to have the car tuned, and tuned well. Not an afternoon on the dyno, but as long as it takes to get it right.

Play it safe and you will still have a fuel conservative, fast, reliable streetcar.
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Re: Turbo for Lewd! (dependable??)

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It all really depends. Detonation is the number one killer of a turbo-charged engine. My suggestion would be to replace your internals and lower the compression ratio to 9:1 or lower. Sure you can get away with 10:1 with good fuel management and good tuning but one bad batch of fuel will send your engine to the scrap yard. A good intercooler is always a good idea. Depending on how much boost you want to run you might want to upgrade the injectors and pump. For fuel management I would go with the Hondata, it might be expensive but they what they are doing. Personally I think the Apexi unit is crap and I would never buy it after looking into a ton of fuel management systems. Don't forget to have the car tuned, and tuned well. Not an afternoon on the dyno, but as long as it takes to get it right.

Play it safe and you will still have a fuel conservative, fast, reliable streetcar.

I agree 150% Keep it in tune and Keep the pre deationation out of the engine. Spark knock will kill any forcefed engine. Also SMC Alcohol injection Thats how I get 24 PSI on pump gas.
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...Also SMC Alcohol injection ...
What exactly is alcohol injection? does it just add alcohol to the fuel mix or somethign? because i know like methanol and ethanol can increase your octane rating, but im just wondering about how the alcohol is delivered.
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youngster, please use periods. it helps everyone understand what you are saying.

jermonsta, why not haltech?
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Re: Turbo for Lewd! (dependable??)

haltech??? don't know much about haltech, but i'm not sure about AEM, it's the best way too do it but... i was looking at the prices and, about $2,000 just for the ems unit, so hondata might not be bad, i'll have to check out haltech, anything that controls everything is good, but don't go afc unless you are boosting real low prolly, does hondata control VTEC engagement????? what about Haltech???
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Re: Turbo for Lewd! (dependable??)

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What exactly is alcohol injection? does it just add alcohol to the fuel mix or somethign? because i know like methanol and ethanol can increase your octane rating, but im just wondering about how the alcohol is delivered.
Don't use Methanol!!! Denatured alcohol is alot ezer on metal parts. Methanol is cheaper but moe crrosive *sp* The alcohol is deliverd into the aircharge after the intercooler. It is pumped through nozzles. Whhen the alcohol hits the Hot air it evaporates lowering the tempature of the air dramitacly. (Same priceapal as A/C) Here is alike to the SMC system I run.
http://www.rjcracing.com/SMC_Alcohol...injection.html
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So its similar to nitrous injection in delivery? COuld you use denatured alcohol like you can buy at lowes or does it have to be a differnt grade or whatever?
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Re: Turbo for Lewd! (dependable??)

haltech does look interesting, you might need two different modules but that might be ok,
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