Know your enemy: Mitsubishi Eclipse

[Self]

[quote=lowsonoma1999]I have an '02 Eclipse GT 5spd. No, it is not the fastest car out there, but it isn't bad, especially when I'm used to racing a Camaro that runs low 9s in the 1/4.QUOTE]

What year Camaro?

[rysbrnr]

Sometimes I just want to grab those ricers, pull them out of their LED nozzled cars and say,

[Chavez408]

hahaha now thats rice..i mean nice**

lol love the pic, thats a new one

[lowsonoma1999]

[quote=Self]

Originally Posted by lowsonoma1999

I have an '02 Eclipse GT 5spd. No, it is not the fastest car out there, but it isn't bad, especially when I'm used to racing a Camaro that runs low 9s in the 1/4.QUOTE]

What year Camaro?

'69. I'll see if I can get some pics loaded tonight at home.

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by fatninja19

Same car?? Aren't Stratus' 4 doors?? And I dont know of any of them coming turbocharged from the factory or AWD.. ever.

I believe there is a Dodge Stratus RT coupe AND sedan. Not sure about the sedan, but the coupe comes from the same plant as the Mitsubishi Eclipse. I am talking about the current 3G Eclipse...not the previous models...how many of the current Eclipse breed come turbocharged from the factory w/AWD?

Originally Posted by 89Turbo944

A Dodge Stratus RT is not an Eclipse. It is really nuthing like it.

The Stratus RT coupe is made by the same people in the same plant...one for Dodge, one for Mitsubishi, one for Dodge, one for Mitsubishi. Not sure about the standard econobox, Hertz rental, 4dr Stratus...but I am pretty certain about the Stratus RT coupe. It's the same car - give or take a few cosmetic pieces.

[RACER D12]

how many of the current Eclipse breed come turbocharged from the factory w/AWD?

None

Edit:800 posts woo hoo go me

[Steiner]

Originally Posted by RACER D12

None

LOL. It was a loaded question. I knew the answer but the guy who originally asked the question didn't.

[1QUICK2]

I agree that the GSX was a great car, with plenty of potential. Its now just the rice image that it has recieved. You should see the shit that people do to non-turbo MR2's. It makes me cry. It is these people that lower the value of our cars.

[Nexagen]

Most people would argue over the tranny of the 3G but infact unless you have automatic only the tranny will kick ass. Here is how a 3G shifts in Sportronic

P
R
N
D + Shift

. - Shift

Notice that on the left side it's all automatic, but shift to Drive and shift right and you are in 4 speed manual shift mode, which will give you complete control over how you want to shift. People say this transmission is not good, but Mitsubishi has the sportronic as an option basically on 80% of their cars. BMW also has this feature on their cars as well. You just get the best of both worlds. An there is no clutch because the new mitsu uses clutchless technology. Anyway if you are going 70 Mph in this car in 4th Gear doing 3,000 RPM's and you want to go faster, all you would need to do is - Shift and drop to 3rd. The RPM's will scream to 6,500 RPM's and will send the car to 100 MPH in 2 seconds.

Secondly, the engine...
Most DSM 2G's like the Talon ESi and the Eclipse GS of yesterday come with 140 HP Stock. The 3G GS comes with 147 HP Stock. The GSX, TSi, GST all have around 210 HP. The 3G GT and GT-S also have 210 HP.

So not much diferences there. Now if you are going to boast about the 2G having Turbo... the 3G can be supercharged by Ripp Mods SDS Supercharger which can add to a total of 271 HP. There are also good turbo systems for the 3G and some better Turbos that are in the works as well. Oh and the 2G's if you buy used then to have ALOT more milage than 3G's which you can buy for relatively the same price.

I think with extreme modifications it is possible to get a 3G up to 450+ Horsepower but the project would need to be a:
2003-4 Eclipse GTS Spyder 210HP Stock
Now add some extreme mods like Injen, Stage 2 Turbo, Borla Exhaust, etc and you can make a monster out of it.

Also about Handling, The 2G is slightly taller in height than the low 3G, Although the 2G has AWD and the 3G has FWD, the 3G can still conquer the turns.

In the end it all depends on how much money you have because that will determine how much you want to spend on upgrading your car. Sure it's not too uncommon to see a 500+ HP 2G every once in a while, but the 3G can be upgraded as well.

Owning a 3G I know that it is one of the most customizable cars that you can find upgrades for that I know. All Eclipses rock anyway and they are certainly much better than Mustangs and I know from experiance cause my first ride was a 2002 Mustang V6 Convertible which was a ripp off comparing to the price of a 3G which is half as much and more HP.

-Nexagen

[Neutrino]

Originally Posted by Nexagen

Most people would argue over the tranny of the 3G but infact unless you have automatic only the tranny will kick ass. Here is how a 3G shifts in Sportronic

P
R
N
D + Shift

. - Shift

Notice that on the left side it's all automatic, but shift to Drive and shift right and you are in 4 speed manual shift mode, which will give you complete control over how you want to shift. People say this transmission is not good, but Mitsubishi has the sportronic as an option basically on 80% of their cars. BMW also has this feature on their cars as well. You just get the best of both worlds. An there is no clutch because the new mitsu uses clutchless technology.

trasnlation of the paragraphs above:
"I don't know shit about transmisions"


wow mitsubishi is really great...they invented a car with automatic trasmission that uses "clutchless technology"....I'm blown away


can you tell us more

[89Turbo944]

o you are talking about that thingy in the bell housing called a tourque converter. huk yuk

And im sorry i do not know many automatic trannys that have no clutches. LAst time i checked almost all used clutch packs. And the mitsubishi is no different. In actual fact the automatic tranny uses more clutches than the standard tranny. If you want to get technical.

Secondly, the engine...
Most DSM 2G's like the Talon ESi and the Eclipse GS of yesterday come with 140 HP Stock. The 3G GS comes with 147 HP Stock. The GSX, TSi, GST all have around 210 HP. The 3G GT and GT-S also have 210 HP.

Its not about how much power they have but how it is developed and used throught the powerband.

So not much diferences there. Now if you are going to boast about the 2G having Turbo... the 3G can be supercharged by Ripp Mods SDS Supercharger which can add to a total of 271 HP. There are also good turbo systems for the 3G and some better Turbos that are in the works as well. Oh and the 2G's if you buy used then to have ALOT more milage than 3G's which you can buy for relatively the same price.

Ok well the 2g somes stock with forced induction. The g3 does not. Making it a not so good candidate for doing so. Also milage is not a good way to tell if a car is good or not. Buying a high milage car can be a good thing. Espically if you plan on modding it.

I think with extreme modifications it is possible to get a 3G up to 450+ Horsepower but the project would need to be a:
2003-4 Eclipse GTS Spyder 210HP Stock
Now add some extreme mods like Injen, Stage 2 Turbo, Borla Exhaust, etc and you can make a monster out of it.

With money you can do anything. This car would fall apart at 450hp. The 4 speed tranny will not hold the power for any length of time. It will burn up. A new tranny every 100miles is not worth having 450hp.

Also about Handling, The 2G is slightly taller in height than the low 3G, Although the 2G has AWD and the 3G has FWD, the 3G can still conquer the turns.

The 2G is proven to be an awsome handling car. Many compeat in auto X and win. I have yet to see a competitive 3g, even ones with 10000 into the suspension alone. 3gs dont handle that great. Look at a skidpad compsrison of the 2 cars, or a slalom.

In the end it all depends on how much money you have because that will determine how much you want to spend on upgrading your car. Sure it's not too uncommon to see a 500+ HP 2G every once in a while, but the 3G can be upgraded as well.

Wow something correct. Yes a 3g can be uprgaded, but it will not be able to be done to the same level as a 2g and have the same reliability.

Owning a 3G I know that it is one of the most customizable cars that you can find upgrades for that I know. All Eclipses rock anyway and they are certainly much better than Mustangs and I know from experiance cause my first ride was a 2002 Mustang V6 Convertible which was a ripp off comparing to the price of a 3G which is half as much and more HP.

The 3g eclipse is actual pretty limited in the number of mods you can put on it compared to the 2g. Unless you are talking bodykits and wings and crap. Not all Eclipses rock, the one in the fast and furious was hidious and deserved to be blown up. I have seen many ungodly looking eclipses out there. And yes a V6 Convertable mustang is not a great car. But it is a car nun the less.

Its amazing that in 8 posts you seem to have been flamed on every one. Dont post something unless it is of some sort of importance or a fact.

[TatII]

the first gen DSM my boss's friend has is a first gen eagle talon TSI AWD. it ran on the 14B turbo. the car had full bolt ons and was tuned with with a ECU flash, and was running on 16 psi of boost. the total amount spent on mods, like 3K. guess what he runs? he ran a 13.3 on the 1/4 mile. right now he has a Hahns Race Craft 20G turbo converted running 20psi now, on still the original motor with over 180K miles on it, doing AWD burn outs and there is not a single problem with that car. you try getting a POS third gen to do that with just 3K. and remember he has a full interior. the DSM are quit monsters in their own rights. the 3rd is just pure garbage designed for girls who knows shit about cars. anyone who drives fast cars would know that the 3rd just didn't have that sparkle that the DSM's had.

[civicHBsi91]

i just recently raced a new gt v6 in my rex......he didnt hang very long... i pulled quite hard on him ive yet to race a 1 or 2g, ive had a run with a galant vr4 tho i only got him by half a car but a win is a win, it looked slow, deff wasent

[TatII]

yeah those VR-4's. they look like POS to the untrained eye but they are the exact same thing as a AWD DSM. the chassis and engine is the same as the GSX.

[89Turbo944]

yeah those VR-4's. they look like POS to the untrained eye but they are the exact same thing as a AWD DSM. the chassis and engine is the same as the GSX.

I hope you are kidding.