SS hoods non functional/ Ws6 hood provides real cold air pressure

[89IROC&RS]

ok everyone at this point, im calling my argument a draw, and leaving all the other guys to argue about the LS6 and al that crap. all i know is that aside from the buzz words that sonic seems to know, about laminar flow and whatnot, it just dosnt add up to me. does that mean im right and sonic is wrong, hardly, i could be wrong, but from what i know, and what i have studied, it dosnt sound right to me, so i called him on it. he even called in one of his buds, who i wont call out on here, who argued the same points, with surprisingly the same info, and then told me that helicopters shouldnt fly...... still dont know where that one came from. but anyway. what it all boiled down to is that sonic dosnt have the numbers to back up what he is essentially pulling out of his ass. but i dont have the numbers to shut him down. so there it sits. and thats all there really is to it as far as im concerend. im gonna spend my time helping people who need it, rather than bashing skulls with this guy.

[89IROC&RS]

oh and sonic, one last point, (yeah yeah i said i was gone, so sue me) you talk about me acting like a student? then tell me this, you talk about laminar flow picking up heat, and then talk about circular flow of air picking up heat, according to you, just about any action the air takes in a camaro leads to temperature rise. also, we never determined that all that flow gains temp. also, as i explained to your friend. the intake track on the hood of the car is painted, which acts as an insulator. the same reason you never EVER paint your radiator. even if it makes it pretty its not the best insulator, but an insulator none the less. also, the air trying to get into that air duct, works down and around to the air filter, where it impacts the restriction, aka the air filter. so the air moving in at a set speed, suddenly slows at the filter, and the air behind it continues in and builds up behind it, creating, you guessed it people, positive pressure now i have already admitted that the lower scoop, and direct line to the air filter on the firebird is better. and that there is probly a bit of heat exchange, aka convection, on the air in the track, but you have to realize that while there is warm air in the bottom of the hood, cold air is constantly moving over the outside and inside, more cold air than warm, you seem to ignore this small fact in your argument.

*quote* Know a race is usually to 110.. andsince is a logrythmic exponent.. i'd say.. the Ws6 remeber weighing 100lbs more ..has a clear advantage with the intake track alone.. *quote*

huh?

*quote* common sens .. you act like a student.. i'll place a temp gauge at my maf and i already now ts gong to be ambient.. though you know the SS hood it won't be.. and it only gets worse.. while the Ws6 gets better.. *quote*

so now, not only the firebird has better VE than the camaro, it can actually change the ambient air temp as well??? these are truely magical machines!!!

oh and nice statement that i am acting like a student, well, thats because i am dipshit. but i hope that wasnt a statement that you may have schooled me or something. because everything you have put out, and stated, is pulled out of your butt as far as everyone here can tell. you have posted no proof, no readings, and everything you say is an assumption. so therefore, you are going to be called on it. wellcome to reality. have a nice day

[SONIC1050fps]

Sorry if my love and passion belong to the F body

No i won't scan i'll fax.. its personal.. and its my business.. so No one has gotton owned..

i also have proof about the SS a signed letter from Vice pesident of GM.. the one you see in the mags recently.. a concept that they continually update for 3 years. the SS will be produced.. too bad for you
So you are wrong and again i have that info.. i don't open my mouth without being 100 % sure... i don't speculate


Hell yeah i'm mad..cause i have to put in my 20 when i don't need too

smallman

would you like a picture..
you might be a little surprised


And its not 1-2 degree..your dreaming if you think so.... nice to know you've been checking.. also 89 is a student.. has he been in the feild.... He asked the correct question .. he didn't followit through to conclusion.. you don't stop a formula in the middle because thats were you like it.. it has to go to fruition

Sorry its fax or go rot. yeah i have scanners..but i refuse to do things your way.. i purposefully make it difficult.. to show just how bad you want me to prove my stuff..well if you need it.. a Fax # will only do... it also has to do with security

i own no Cadillac Xlr.

What to say about the LPE TT z06..it plain demolishes everythingon the road,exotic to super muscle cars.. never liked the Vette crowd much.. but had to sieze the opportunity.. an Anniversary Z06..oh yes.. Their is nothin to say.. its a turnkey

beleive what you want.. You pysdo Freudian assesment.. All wrong..

i have data on the intake stuff as well

under load you manifold pressure continues to drop in 3rd and 4th it gets worse.. Your hoods do no provide the necessary oxygyn density to repack the molecules to return VE to its norm

its that simple

anytime you want actual figure and number.. send a fax.. for security reason..i cannot scan nor put up any site..containing any technical info..

i guess you haven't realized the restricton placed on people in my position By Homeland security

[SONIC1050fps]

Yeah well 89 iroc you have mail.. and the rest of youall

try this for an assesment.. type A personality, Did the Judo thing for pops for 16 years( aggressive)
never pulled any numbers from my ass.. 1-2 degrees.. was 89 iroc's guess.

Have definitive info on the SS its not a concept.. you don't work and refine a concept for 3 years..lol you guys are so illogical.. and have detailed document on that going to producton
Kinda makes senes though no lose the t/a and Z28 add the Gto and the SS.. ..( you have no lateral thinking)

And becaus of my Job.. a Fax is the best i can do.. Homeland security.. watches military or military contractors.. very thoroughly.

I'd have to fax .. even that would be subject to scrutiny..

again i don't care.. i only dislike Blacky.. who can't accet.. LS6 par in 01-02 thats parts plural
a 1in 5 chance of LS6 block n every 01-02 F body

HOOD DESIGN IS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER ON A WS6.

His Bilstien suspension suck for off theline racing.. these are all known quantities



Actually i thin 89 Iroc..asks smsrt questions.. and bein a STUDENT i prefer to talk with him due to the freshness of memory..

he just misses a few pointas that we could discuss

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yeah i'm a troll.. nice try


perhaps i'll start writing about all of you in Italian..and see how you feel.. o even better latin.. that would shake you up a dead language who would help you

Your Star Trek
Universal translator..lol

Remeber Boys Type A,, and you forgot Mensa memeber.

oh and allow me to offer one excusei write with an early version of the IR board.. at a distance of 15 feet from my Crt.. without spellcheck.. it tends to miss keystroke.. just like your remote from your telivision.. so you double tap it.. no spaces com up double letters dropped letter.

ARE WE CLEAR HERE.. AS SAID NOT A LATERAL THINKER AMOUNG YOU. with the exception of 89 Iroc

[89IROC&RS]

ok everyone, sonic has asked me to do him a favor, and at this point i see no need not to. but before i do, let me afirm that i have the upmost respect for blacky, he is very knowledgeable, and has corrected, and helped me out several times. and as many of the people on this board can support. he rarely steers people wrong. so dont take this as a support of one member over another. however i have been talking to sonic one on one through PMs and once you drop swords and admit that you dont agree, and start discussing things, hes really not a bad guy and i personally do not lable him a liar. weather or not he is right, i dont know enough on the subject to say. but i do believe that like everyone else on this post he truley believes that he is right, and will push it untill proved wrong. so its a bit unfair to lable him any different than the rest of us. i know im a dick when im backed into a corner, untill the facts are undisputable, its a helluva lot of fun being right, and it sucks to be wrong. so do me a favor, and keep that in mind before putting up any posts that are member bashing rather than relivent to the subject matter. Thanx.

[1992RS]

yeah what iroc said!!!!!!

[89IROC&RS]

about me being a dick right??

[1992RS]

umm...yeah. But hey, I made a believer out of you. Don't you wish every one had something to back up there claims? Anyway, this was a dumb argument if you ask me. I think the only true difference in the two are the looks. Like my uncle said, pontiac does it with style, chevy just does it.

[BlkCamaroSS]

I will never believe that 1 out of 5 F-bodies has an LS6 in it, especially when only proven by fax. I myself, being a student, do not have a fax machine, maybe when I get a job after graduation I'll have one. Sonic will have to give me his "proof" then. I don't foresee me caring then though...

[89IROC&RS]

no one is asking you to suddenly make a turn around blacky, certainly not me. just at this point, call a truice, if for whatever reason, you cant proove him wrong, and he cant proove you wrong, just let it go. or at least take a min to take a breath and calm down. i mean, i have to cover my sweet virgin ears when i come in this forum lets all debate freely, and openly, but with some dignity. savy?

[BlkCamaroSS]

If you saw his PM's to me, you'd realize there is no dignity to be had. I will not show him an ounce of respect. Respect is earned, not inherant.

He won't be around here long anyway.

[1992RS]

So Iroc, did you happen to watch pirats of the carrabien recently? savy?

[89IROC&RS]

some might say there is dignity to be had in being the bigger man, but im not going to lecture you blacky, i was just puttin out my two cents on the matter.

[89IROC&RS]

lmao, SPOT ON 92rs !!!! just watched it tonight bad ass movie, i think its my new favorite movie.

[1992RS]

I've watched it like four times since thursday.