Turbo B18B1 or All Motor B16A

[tupacglock]

/me is so fuckin confused

[Ricochet]

My engine came stock ready to rev to 8400 and I'm not going to build it go any higher than that. With some internals done, bored/stroked to a 1.8, and the basic bolt ons I could see around 230 hp with a descent amount of torque. That's a guesstimation, but that will be fast enough for what I need to get to work and blitz down the 1/4 in the 14's, reliably.

[Thepeug]

I agree, it all depends on your goals. If you want to run 9's, a turbo is a financailly wiser and more feasible option than all-motor. For a decently fast daily driver, however, I'd choose all-motor over a turbo any day. Not to mention that fact that I wouldn't want to take the chance of screwing up an engine as rare and expensive as yours.

[tupacglock]

Excuse me, but rare? LS Engiens arent that hard to find, nor are the tranys

[XixGenuinexiX]

he has a civic type R engine i believe not a LS engine

[Thepeug]

It's the b16b, a pretty rare jdm.

[jcrx]

Originally Posted by black89crxLs

Sorry to inform you but your wrong in some cases yea uf u boost like 25-30 lbs, mah teachers at Honda/acura tech school, explained that a built all motor will not last as long as a built turbo, because if the fact that your putting more stress on the motor to squeze every lil hp out of the motor, as far as reving higher, hondas make more HP at high rps than they do at lower rpm's, parts are moving faster, hiting harder, and getting hotter that a motor that is turbo, we did a TMT test in class and it showed that a turbo motor the parts on and in a motor are over 75 degrees cooler than a N/A motor with an outside temperature of 78 degrees, with a N/A CAI and front mount inter-coolerin a b18a with a strait T4, turbo motor dosent have to rev as high as N/A to make more HP...........ill get him to email me the class disk he has this info on and ill post in on here..........

Dude, stop while you are behind. 25-30psi on a Honda, get a fucking clue, and you "Honda/Acura tech school teachers"? And what qualifies a Honda/Acura tech to teach anything about boost other the discussing the Beat?

with a N/A CAI and front mount inter-coolerin a b18a with a strait T4,

Could you explain that a little better? I am having a hard time picturing a CAI and a front mount intercooler? Are you comparing them, if so try useing an "and then" instead of "and", it's less confusing.

[black89crxLs]

Originally Posted by jcrx

And what qualifies a Honda/Acura tech to teach anything about boost other the discussing the Beat?

O i dont know maby the classes they go through, but i wont discuss, some peoples minds (I mean brains)are to small to comprehend this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jcrx]

Originally Posted by black89crxLs

O i dont know maby the classes they go through, but i wont discuss, some peoples minds (I mean brains)are to small to comprehend this!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like ones that talk about 25-30lbs of boost on a Honda motor. I'd like to know what motors they were discussing, and what mods had been made to them.

[jcrx]

Unless you want to try to get people to believe that Honda techs were running 25-30psi on the same B18A that they were comparing with a CAI.

[black89crxLs]

Just drop it!!!!!!!there do u understand that

[jcrx]

Originally Posted by black89crxLs

Just drop it!!!!!!!there do u understand that

What I understand is you making ridiculous claims, and then have nothing to back them up.

[tupacglock]

I understand what he said perfectly fine. Hes saying that a turbo wont ware your engine as much unless your running an amount of compression that isnt feasable which he pulled 25-30lbs ut of his ass as an example. He also said that the turbo that wares less (within reasonable compression) was intercooled had a modified air intake.

[mattbrye]

OK how bout this...with $5000 dollars to spend....a turbo B18b will be the best route in terms of speed...a N/A b16 engine will not even compare to the power of a turbo b18b engine..so if u want a fast ass car for 5000 dollars then go with the turbo...cuz 5000 dollars on a N/A engine is not enough to keep up with a turbo...anyone want to argue with that then go ahead and waste ur time ..i know i am right.

And ricochet...turbos can be extrmely reliable when tuned properly and the right upgrades are used...so when ur N/A "more reliable" car is at the track...my turbocharged,RELIABLE, engine...will smoke you..period.

[EF You]

dont believe anything black89crxLs says. hes already been banned from two local sites here in louisiana for talking trash, lying to people, and selling parts he doesnt even have. his name on www.sportsnimports.com was b20crxvtec, and the only part of that name hes ever owned was the crx part, no vtec, and no b20. then he claimed to have an h22 in it, but that he blew the engine in 3 days, so now hes running a b18b. first of all chris, the cutting you would have had to do to the body of that crx would be so intense that i dont think you could just yank the "h22" you had in it out and slap a b18 in it. theres no doubt that get the h22 in, you would have had to cut important stock stuff out to make it fit. so quit lying on all these websites in an attempt to look cool.

honda/acura school huh? where at chris? cause all the time i worked at an acura dealership, no one ever mentioned a honda/acura school that played with turbocharging NA honda motors. the only thing we ever did at honda/acura school was talk about OBD systems, emissions, and airbags. quit lying.