Environmentalism?

[Steel]

i cant wait for a "redpeace" when we colonize Mars and exploit its resources. From what scientists have been saying aobut life on mars before, perhaps there is a lot of oil there. So the rebirth of 5 gpm v8 musclescars will happen once again!

[taranaki]

Point #1 - all statistics are meaningless - nobody posts figures which disprove their own arguments.Statistics is the art of setting the parameters to suit your opinions.


My question - why do different cultures find the consumption of different species unacceptable, and who decides which species to exclude from the list of what is acceptable eating?

[texan]

Originally posted by taranaki
My question - why do different cultures find the consumption of different species unacceptable, and who decides which species to exclude from the list of what is acceptable eating?

It's almost always religious in nature, and often also ethnocentric . Whether it be based on a sound worry of health, direct religious dictum, or the plain old forbidding people of differing religions getting to know one another, the key is always whacky religious belief. Read up on the rules of Kosher eating sometime, especially those of Rabbinic Injunction.

[1989 DX R]

Originally posted by Steel
So the rebirth of 5 gpm v8 musclescars will happen once again!

TESTIFY!!!!

[taranaki]

Originally posted by texan


It's almost always religious in nature, and often also ethnocentric . Whether it be based on a sound worry of health, direct religious dictum, or the plain old forbidding people of differing religions getting to know one another, the key is always whacky religious belief. Read up on the rules of Kosher eating sometime, especially those of Rabbinic Injunction.

Ok,but where is the wacky religious belief with dolphins and whales,cats and dogs,horses etc?

[texan]

Originally posted by taranaki
Ok,but where is the wacky religious belief with dolphins and whales,cats and dogs,horses etc?

They're friendly, they're somewhat intelligent. Some species are also endangered, and in the case of dolphins are most often killed in fishing nets meant for other species. In other words they are the underdogs, and remind us a little bit of ourselves. You don't here anybody raising hell about the plight of carrots and onions because they in almost no way remind us of ourselves. Ever heard the argument of humane death, or that we shouldn't kill any animal with a central nervous system? This applies our own sacntity of human life beliefs to other things similar to ourselves, but plants without nervous systems are straight screwed since they supposed can't tell they are being destroyed.

Dogs, cats and horses are our pets, which means they are to a certain extent part of our families. With humans the only thing not usually on the menu is that we which find some parity with, hence those animals are strictly taboo (and you can add most primates to that list). It's pathetic really, the only rights to life activitsts challenge are those which most closely resemble our own. On the other hand cannibalism is not forbidden in some cultures, though it has very serious biological consequenses and is therefore naturally not something you see very often within any species.

[taranaki]

sorry,my point could have been clearer...............some cultures do eat our pet species.......is it out of need, or do they see dogs,cats,dolphins etc as a legitimate food source,and if so,why?

[gang$tarr]

cause those animals just weren't ever seen as pets there? maybe...
if they were never made to look taboo, then people wouldn't think twice about eating them

[Steel]

altho i do agree with animal rights on ponits such as the way food is made. Like veal. everyone loves veal, but how many of them know that's its made by locking a calf into a box for its short life so it cant move before its killed? and other such attrocities, such as the meaningless beatings of animals. I knew a dog beater. Poor dog, took me a good part of a year to gain its trust, and i let it free, watched it maul the owner. i was rooting for the dog, but they had to put the dog down after that not fair. i egged that guys house and did so much crap to him after that.

[gang$tarr]

why would you beat a dog? that guy's a jackass

probably a madd drunk or somethin

[taranaki]

Originally posted by gang$tarr
why would you beat a dog? that guy's a jackass

probably a madd drunk or somethin

Usually just social misfits who have a cruel disposition and a cowardly nature.I try to feel sorry for these sickos but always end up wanting to slap them up .

[gdalton]

I agree that a lot of these greenies go a little to far with there arguments against mans abuse of the earth but you people should realize that we are fucking up the environment and if you want proof then go find the nearest creek or river and drink a nice big glass of that fresh water that we didn't mess up and get back to me.
If you look back to the thirties in America when we started using all these new tools we had invented to help farm the land you will see we had a huge increases in crops and farmers were getting rich, but in a few short years they noticed the land wasn't supporting the crops and the top soil was drying up and huge portions of land were turning into desert. They had huge dust storms that drove a lot of families off their land and killed thousands because of all the dirt they were inhaling in the air. Since then we have learned to calm our selves and give the land time to replenish it's nutrients by planting one field for a season then leaving it alone and planting another field the next season. This however only helps to slow down the process and if you drive through Nebraska today you will see huge fields of crops and right next to them are sand dunes.
As for the poor farmers that can't water there crops because of salmon, don't worry to much because your belly is still full and they get money from the government to make up for there small harvest. And before you start worrying about whether or not your going to be able to have some mashed potato's to go with your nice thick slice of Betsy's ass just think of all the food we waste and all the people who have none to eat and all the food we could give to them and still be able to stuff our faces every night but don't because the farmers and grocery stores want to make enough money to afford the little calf who's feet have never touched the ground. But that is a different argument so I will leave it alone.
My point is we should take more care not to over exert what little power we do have over the earth.

[1989 DX R]

I dont think many farmers are very rich. My main point was that people go too far in the name of "protecting the earth" Whats the rate the rainforest is dissapearing? Isnt it like 4 football fields a day? How long has this been happening now? 30, 40 years? Shouldnt we have destroyed all of it by now? Obviously i am against random burning of the rainforest, but it is a forest, it regrows. Besides 80% of the oxygen we breathe is created by phytoplankton, and there are plenty of those.

[taranaki]

Originally posted by 1989 DX R
Whats the rate the rainforest is dissapearing? Isnt it like 4 football fields a day?

I hate to scare you, but according to the Rainforest Foundation UK,the figure is approx

ONE FOOTBALL FIELD PER SECOND.

[1989 DX R]

Hot damn! What do they use down there? Nukes?