Civic or Camaro?

[Ricochet]

I'd drive a Dodge Viper...

[GScivic7]

Originally Posted by esp

do u know where u are??? the honda/acura forum


*unleashes the dogs to attack*



sorry to say but i WILL take any import car over a domestic car anyday, no matter what. i would rather have my 4 cylinder import that can beat the bigger and badder domestics.

lighter car + same amount of hp = faster

i dont care how much i spend thats just the way it is going to be for me

i would take any import over a domestic too, i just like imports, but seriously, a 4 cylinder can only do so much. shit my friend's el camino has a practically bone stock 454 the only thing done to it is 4 barrel carb, and polished aluminum IM. and he's pushing a little over 400 hp in a 4000lb+ car, and it still takes most of the cars around here. wait until it's blown and has a 75 shot and a 10 bolt posi rear end, it'll probably take all of the cars in the neighborhood. I've seen a camaro with a vette engine, i think those are like LS1's(?) not too sure, but it had the vette engine, 6 spd tranny, and Granetelli MAS, and that shit had to be able to run low 13's high 12's, damn this thing was fast

[Ricochet]

They are relatively cheaper to make them go faster, and respond better to mods, but I have yet to see a domestic that isn't ugly as shit.

[MistaZ]

Ok ESP, since your 4 banger is so bad and can beat all the bigger and badder domestics, you mind telling me what you have done to your car? I hope you are putting out at least 500 hp because there are a lot of "bigger and badder" domestics roaming around here who do easily. Also, you can NEVER make the same amount of horse power as me if we both fully built our motors obviously. Nice try. Man, I love my car!!!! It looks good, its fast as shit, and it sounds bad ass too!!!

[Miataracer]

which is easier to work on? have fun changing those spark plugs? how about putting on a set of headers? etc...

which gets better gas mileage?

which one wont have little electrical problems like broken window motors, switches, etc. eating you alive every other day?

which one weighs less?

which one looks soooo much cooler when it eats cars like yours for breakfast???

I've dealt with american iron, I have driven them, I have worked on them, I love the sound of a 350 chevy motor, although I personally think the Ford 302 in fox chassis mustangs sounds better.

I would drive a z28, they are fun. but the fact of the matter is they are heavy, the electrical parts are low quality and break all the time (a common problem for almost all american cars) they drive like a tank compared to a honda, and last but not least... THEY DON'T EVEN MAKE THEM ANYMORE

[Jas_M]

Not to mention American cars's build quality for the most part sucks ass.

[chris26969]

Originally Posted by esp

sorry to say but i WILL take any import car over a domestic car anyday, no matter what. i would rather have my 4 cylinder import that can beat the bigger and badder domestics.

Sorry to say but thats really ignortant.

There is no word that you can say that explains why you can justify not buying an american car. Some people have to take a stand and know that American cars do have some power , and the Imports do to, as do the euros. Its kinda funny in a honda forum where people cant see past the ignorance they collect and see a 4.6l Mustang smoking your ass. Or the z28 , or maybe even a 5.0 Mustang. Fast cars man. Why not own them? Give me a good reason.

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by chris26969

Sorry to say but thats really ignortant.

There is no word that you can say that explains why you can justify not buying an american car. Some people have to take a stand and know that American cars do have some power , and the Imports do to, as do the euros. Its kinda funny in a honda forum where people cant see past the ignorance they collect and see a 4.6l Mustang smoking your ass. Or the z28 , or maybe even a 5.0 Mustang. Fast cars man. Why not own them? Give me a good reason.

I'll give you a good reason...A) I pay my own way through college, and wanted something not very expensive with good fuel economy that was realiable. B) Insurence is much cheaper in a Civic for my 24-year old self. C) The word above that justified my not buying the amercian cars above....realibablity...that and too high insurence. Also, the little electrical problems with those cars can and would have driven me up a wall. Not saying they are awful cars, but come one....to say there's no reason to justify not buying an American Car is ignorent. I had a good reason to buy what I bought. The fact it is a japanese car shouldn't matter. And also, this thread is about the guys question, and it's turning into a flame-fest. Look, gas isn't cheap, neather is insurence. When paying for college, textbooks, etc....realiblty was key, as was gas mileage and low insurence cost. That made the civic a winner for the choice to buy in my book. That's why, when I bougnt mine several years ago, I chose it.

[mattyoung33]

Originally Posted by MistaZ

looks good, its fast as shit, and it sounds bad ass too!!!

maybe fast but it doesnt look good! lol

[Ricochet]

Originally Posted by chris26969

Its kinda funny in a honda forum where people cant see past the ignorance they collect and see a 4.6l Mustang smoking your ass. Or the z28 , or maybe even a 5.0 Mustang. Fast cars man. Why not own them? Give me a good reason.

My $13k Civic with a $4k HONDA engine can beat a 5.0 using half as much gas, costing half as much for insurance, and looking twice as good.
Amen.

[BullShifter]

IMO Civic's or Camaro's DO NOT look good in stock trim. Civic's & Camaro's are 2 different worlds when it comes to performance. Yea a 4-banger FWD can be faster then a V8 RWD car, but they can't be compared if u ask me. I think RWD superior to FWD, RWD is SO much more fun to drive, rather then fighting torque steer.

[Miataracer]

camaros suck ass on snow... this much I can tell you for sure!

advantage front wheel drive!

[BullShifter]

If FWD had any advantages, Ferrari's & other super cars would be FWD.

[edman24]

ok well this will go on forever like this but lets state the obvious here.

1) american cars are not built well, have cheap parts, and can make a lot of power easily because the companies who built them were too cheap to tune the engine so they just made it bigger

2)imports are of much better build quality, have slightly more expensive parts, last a lot longer, but take more money to make go faster

i personally would never buy an american car. no not even a viper or anything like that because better cars could be had for the same price. imports handle better, last longer, and are a little more satisfying, for me, to make faster. my VW i have right now would make most american cars around here look pathetic in a straight line, and lets not even get into the twisties. but i have put a lot of money into it and im sure a fully built v8 would put me to shame only in a straight line. but come on i have a 4 cylinder 1.8L 8valve and i can take 95% of the v8's out there? how sad is that.

[chris26969]

what kind of mods do you have that you can beat 95% of cars???