Battle of the beasts

[OoNismoO]

Originally Posted by longlivetheZ

The VR4 is a brick.

VR4: 3800lbs
(http://allacher.net/3000gt/index.html)

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Mk IV Supra Turbo: 3620 (www.i-supra.com)

1992 300ZX TT: 3474 (www.z32.org)

RX7TT: 2888 (http://www.rx7uknet.dircon.co.uk/rx7_fd3s_6.html)

GTR-R34 Skyline: 3388 for the R34, 3432 for the R34 V-Spec. (www.motorex.net)

The Supra was a lot heavier then I thought it was prior to doing this little info scavenger hunt.

i got about 3500 lbs for the supra, on almost every site i went to, and mags. car and driver got 3480 for its curb weight.

[youngvr4]

facts & figures





Model R34 GT-R V-Spec


General Information



Layout Front-engine / AWD see left
Drag Coefficient [cd] NA
Curb Weight [lb (kg)] 3395 (1540) 2440 (1560)
Trunk Space [cu ft. (L)] NA

Overall Length [in. (mm)] 181.1 (4600)
Overall Width [in. (mm)] 70.3 (1785)
Overall Height [in. (mm)] 53.5 (1360)
Wheelbase [in. (mm)] 104.9 (2665)
Track Front [in. (mm)] 58.3 (1480)
Track Rear [in. (mm)] 58.7 (1490)

Steering Rack & Pinion; Speed Sensitive Power Ass.
Turning Radius [ft. (m)] 18 (5.6)
Tires front 245/40 ZR18
Tires rear 245/40 ZR18


Engine



Type RB26DETT - Inline-6; Twin-Turbo Charged
Valvetrain dohc 4-valve/cyl
Displacement [cc] 2568
Bore & Stroke [mm] 86.0 x 73.7
Compression Ratio 8.5:1
Redline [rpm] 8000

Max. Power [Bhp at rpm] 280 at 6800 (official) 327 at 6800 (real)
Max. Torque [lb-ft (Nm) at rpm] 293 (400) at 4400
Bhp/Liter 109 127.3


Gear Ratios



1st 3.827
2nd 2.360
3rd 1.685
4th 1.312
5th 1.000
6th 0.793
Final drive 3.545


Suspension



Front MacPherson struts with an additional link, Lower A-Arms, Coil Springs
Rear Mulitlink Setup with Coil Springs, Tube Shocks, Anti-Roll Bar


Braking



Front - Brakes 300mm ventilated discs with 4-piston calipers
Rear - Brakes 280mm discs with 2-piston calipers
70 - 0 mph [ft (m)] 148 (46)
60 - 0 mph [ft (m)] 120 (36.6)


Performance*



0 - 60 mph [secs] 4.8
0 - 100 mph [secs] 12.3
1/4 mile [secs at mph] 13.7 at 103.5

Top Speed [mph] 155
Lateral acceleration [g] 0.88

[youngvr4]

The Skyline Offical Site

Skyline GT-R Specs
R34 Skyline GT-R Specifications

>>>>Weight<<<<
3388 lbs
>>>>Length<<<<
181.1 in
>>>>Width<<<<
70.3 in
>>>>Height<<<<
53.5 in
>>>>Wheelbase<<<<
104.9 in
>>>>Turning Radius<<<<
5.6 m
>>>>Fuel Capacity<<<<
18.0 gallons
>>>>HORSEPOWER<<<<
277 bhp @ 6800 rpm
>>>>TORQUE<<<<
293 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm
>>>>ACCELERATION<<<<
0-40 mph 2.7
0-60 mph 5.2
0-80 mph 8.7
0-100 mph 13.0
0-1320 ft (1/4 mile) 13.7 @ 103.5 mph
>>>>BRAKING<<<<
From 60 mph 120 ft
From 80 mph 204 ft
>>>>HANDLING<<<<
200 ft skidpad 0.89 g
700 ft slalom 60.8 mph
>>>>FUEL ECONOMY<<<<
Normal Driving 22.8 mpg
>>>>INTERIOR NOISE<<<<
Idle in neutral 52 dBA
Maximum 1st gear 78 dBA
70 mph 76 dBA


Motorex

hey i'm not tryna be a dick, but every were i keep going it has the same stats, i looked at motorex.net but the 1/4mile time isn't listed

[youngvr4]

just like motorex, i've seen 2 other stats with the 0-60 in 4.7
i'm kinda a 1/4mile freak, i go by 1/4mile times
but at the same time, if it does go 0-60 in 4.7 it probably runs the 1/4mile in 13.4 or 13.3
nah ignore that, you can't really tell.

this car has dif stats everywhere
oh and my stats came from supercars.net
and some other place i found in yahoo.

[ZZII]

It also matters on the person driving.

Okay, we all know everything on the R34, but what's up the the 3000GT? all i know is that it has turbo, AWD, 6-cyl, 1.5tons, and is pretty fast compared to other cars.

[longlivetheZ]

You guys have to keep in mind that stats like curb weight, 0-60, 1/4 mile, and those sort of things vary by conditions, drivers, and model years. All stats won't be EXACTLY the same. Hell...I was grabbing every magazine I saw that had the 350Z in it when it came out...the 0-60 times varied from as low as 5 all the way up to 5.6...these things vary. I've seen the times for the 1990-1996 300ZX TT 0-60 quoted as low as 5.2 seconds and as high as 5.8.

The stats I gave for the R34, VR4, 300ZX (if you REALLY want me to, I can varify this for sure. I have a 1992 300ZX dealer brochure...I can tell you ANYTHING you want to know about this car), the RX7, and the Supra are accurate. Check the sites I used. They are dependable sites.

Also...keep in mind...weight is the easiest thing to modify on a car...just start rippin shit out.

[OoNismoO]

what yr is that mk4 supra that you got the specs for? cause ive looked at like almost every site, with almost all the yrs, and the weights always at least 100lbs less than what you posted.

[ZZII]

What were the names of the first 2 cars in this thread? R34 and 3000GT! I'm not asking about Supras. They suck on the 1/4 and track because of their FR. AWD cars get more tracking and better launch off at a dead start.

[youngvr4]

did you say supra's suck in the 1/4
ok, 13.5 really sucks ha
not IMO

91-93 vr4's run 13.9 300hp 305lbs of torque
97-99 run 13.5 320hp 315lbs of torque 3.0liters twin intercooled etc....

the other years are inbetween like 13.7 and so forth, but don't qoute me on that.

[longlivetheZ]

I dunno.....I listed all my references. Click on if you doubt it.

[OoNismoO]

Originally Posted by longlivetheZ

I dunno.....I listed all my references. Click on if you doubt it.

i dont trust that site, ill go with what car and driver says, and what most every magazine i read says.

[longlivetheZ]

Ok....that works....

[ZZII]

Thank you! i finally got some 3000GT specs! Can i get more? Yeah, i know the R34 will beat it anyways, but i still want 3000GT specs.

[longlivetheZ]

Go to lycos and just do a search for "3000GT VR4". There is quite a following for this car and there is massive amounts of info out there that's not hard to find.

[Jimster]

Originally Posted by ZZII

okay, as everyone knows, the 3000GT is a big boy, so that means on the track, turns are gonna be a bitch. yes, it has AWD, but that sucker weighs 1.5tons! the R34 is a lightweight compared to that!

What's the engine name for the 3000GT? If you just mention RB26 to any real car man they know what your talking about.(skyline's full name is RB36DETT)

No- there has never been an RB series engine more than 3 litres..........Unless you meant RB26DETT- which everybody knows in the first place