General CRX questions, only yall can help

[CRXtc]

Originally Posted by LadyNRedSi

if you knew the difference in the first place then you wouldn't have called it a SiR

i don't know why you want to try and talk like you know something i don't. here...let me enlighten you on the ENGINES & some other differences:

Top model of the 4th generation Honda Civic was the JDM (Japanese domestic market) SiR (EF9). It is equipped with the 1.6L DOHC VTEC engine (B16A) that delivers 160hp @ 7600rpm. The VTEC system is tuned for optimal performance unlike some later VTEC engines like the 5th gen. EDM (European domestic market) VEi, SOHC VTEC, tuned for fuel-efficiency and the VTEC-E(conomy) models (VX). The B16A was a very technical advanced engine for its days and still is today. It is a short stroke 4 in-line that delivers its max. hp at 7600rpm and the redline is at a astonishing 8000 rpm. Later generations B16A's can be found in the next generations Civics' and in the Del Sol (CRX for Europe).

Europe's equivalent of the SiR was called 1.6i VT (EE9). Although it was also equipped with a B16A engine (B16A1) and the same SiR front-end there are many (small) differences. For one the EDM version ‘only’ has 150hp (SiR 160). The exact reason for this is not very clear, the head is the same but the VT does not have a knock sensor. A theory is that the EDM VT has a different ignition timing and is detuned because of Octane ratings (JDM 98RON, EDM 95RON).
[color]The VT has slightly different gear ratio's[/color], also the SiR has the speedometer in the center of the gauge cluster, the VT has a "normal" layout. The biggest difference off course is that the SiR is right-hand drive and the VT left-hand drive (except for the UK and Irish models).
Both the SiR and VT have rear disk brakes and larger ventilated disks in front. The suspension also improved and is (compared to the other 4th gens) different in many ways.
The B16A engine was also available in the JDM CRX (EF8) and EDM CRX (EE8). Again the CRX 1.6i VT and SiR have a different front-end and the VT has 150hp and the SiR 160hp. Also the VT has a lot more goodies than its little brother the 1.6i-16 (1.6L DOHC) like full leather seats, power windows, power mirrors, low fuel indicator light etc.
For some reason there has never been a USDM (United States domestic market) 4th gen Civic/CRX VTEC. The Si (1.6L SOHC) was the US top model. But off course there are a lot of hybrid 4th gens with the 1.6L DOHC VTEC and non-VTEC engines.

ok since its obvious that you a MODERATOR are trying to flame someone ASS(thats you)uming that i do not know what i am talking about, first of all the information you cited is from a website, and its very pathetic information at that, not to mention that it is in main regards to the EF9 and not the EF8 (although the differences are finite) congrats you can copy and paste from a website, now if you will be so kind as to look at this:

http://www.cr-x.org/home/jdmspecs.html

you will learn that while that piss poor example of a site that you PLAGARIZED from does have some truthful information this site is FAR better at describing the differences, the EDM interiors of the SiR aka 1.6i VT (not VT 1.6i) are far better (full leather, seat warmer option) and the speedometers on the EDM versions are all cable driven rather then electronic VSS driven, interior differences

http://www.cr-x.org/home/differences/interior.html

exterier differences

http://www.cr-x.org/home/differences/exterior.html

mechanical differences

http://www.cr-x.org/home/differences/mechanical.html

now if you would like to continue this WITHOUT BEING A BITCH then i would gladly choose to do so, but if you would like to continue being a bitch then please do not respond to me because you assume that i am some retard who doesnt know shit, and if that is your ASS(again thats you)umption then you obviously do not know who you are talking to

[amy@af]

you obviousily have issues with people in power

not being civil? LMAO...you're the one calling names and getting your panties in a bunch because you mis quoted info.

plagarized? how does one copy their own info from their own site?

you really are you say that the 1.6i & SiR have the same engine. why don't you check the link you left. it 100% backs up what i say with the same 150hp rating and it lists the gear ratios which are different from the SiR. you really need to read what you are replying to. the last reply i left refered to the CRX & CIVIC.

now if YOU care to have a CIVIL conversation, not get pissy when you leave incorrect info, and READ the links you leave....then you can continue. if you can't play nice then you will not be allowed to play.

[CRXtc]

Originally Posted by LadyNRedSi

you obviousily have issues with people in power

not being civil? LMAO...you're the one calling names and getting your panties in a bunch because you mis quoted info.

plagarized? how does one copy their own info from their own site?

you really are you say that the 1.6i & SiR have the same engine. why don't you check the link you left. it 100% backs up what i say with the same 150hp rating and it lists the gear ratios which are different from the SiR. you really need to read what you are replying to. the last reply i left refered to the CRX & CIVIC.

now if YOU care to have a CIVIL conversation, not get pissy when you leave incorrect info, and READ the links you leave....then you can continue. if you can't play nice then you will not allowed to play.

i know what i posted and i did not call names first, you started with the name calling, second of all there are many different variants of the b16a tranny and all are geared differently and there is no consistency with these trannys and where they were installed, second of all i was already aware of the 10hp difference but the fact is that you ASSUME that people dont know as much as you because you are a moderator, please girl, just because someone calls a european 1.6i vt an SiR when thats not what honda called it (although it was still an SiR made for the european market) you got your thong in a wad......chill out and realize that you are not god and you do not know everything, also realize that you may think you know a lot, but trust me you have not even begun to scratch the surface of me or what i know so back up offa these

[amy@af]

gear ratios
crx SiR
Y1 tranny
3.166
2.052
1.416
1.103
0.870
3.000
4.266


crx VT
Y2 tranny
3.250
2.052
1.416
1.103
0.870
3.000
4.133

gear ratios

[CRXtc]

Originally Posted by LadyNRedSi

gear ratios
crx SiR
Y1 tranny
3.166
2.052
1.416
1.103
0.870
3.000
4.266


crx VT
Y2 tranny
3.250
2.052
1.416
1.103
0.870
3.000
4.133

gear ratios

congrats, now here you go

http://www.bseries.net/html/specs/btrannyspecs.php


isnt that special

[amy@af]

Originally Posted by CRXtc

i know what i posted and i did not call names first, you started with the name calling, second of all there are many different variants of the b16a tranny and all are geared differently and there is no consistency with these trannys and where they were installed, second of all i was already aware of the 10hp difference but the fact is that you ASSUME that people dont know as much as you because you are a moderator, please girl, just because someone calls a european 1.6i vt an SiR when thats not what honda called it (although it was still an SiR made for the european market) you got your thong in a wad......chill out and realize that you are not god and you do not know everything, also realize that you may think you know a lot, but trust me you have not even begun to scratch the surface of me or what i know so back up offa these

you need some SERIOUS help. all i said was i dunno why you were talking like i didn't know what i was saying. then you called me an ass and a bitch and trying to asct like i'm abusing my mod enfluences. GO BACK AND READ

there is different variants of the tranny but you said and i quote

Originally Posted by CRXtc

was it still powered by a b16a? did it still have the same suspension as the EF8? its 1.6i VT BTW.....and there are some EDM RHD cars......tisk tisk

like i said...go back and check your link. it has 2 different colums....1 for SiR and 1 for VT. wouldn't you know there is a 10hp difference and 2 different trannys. YOU said they were they were the SAME ENGINE....not i.

you may THINK you know a lot. if you really did then you wouldn't have said the engines were the same....you wouldn't have called the the VT a SiR....and you would have realized the link YOU left backed up what i said

how sad...you really need to re-read this thread. it's sad you have to get so offended by a girl who corrected you

sorry sean price that your thread is getting ruined.

[CRXtc]

Originally Posted by LadyNRedSi

you need some SERIOUS help. all i said was i dunno why you were talking like i didn't know what i was saying. then you called me an ass and a bitch and trying to asct like i'm abusing my mod enfluences. GO BACK AND READ

there is different variants of the tranny but you said and i quote



like i said...go back and check your link. it has 2 different colums....1 for SiR and 1 for VT. wouldn't you know there is a 10hp difference and 2 different trannys. YOU said they were they were the SAME ENGINE....not i.

you may THINK you know a lot. if you really did then you wouldn't have said the engines were the same....you wouldn't have called the the VT a SiR....and you would have realized the link YOU left backed up what i said

how sad...you really need to re-read this thread. it's sad you have to get so offended by a girl who corrected you

sorry sean price that your thread is getting ruined.

so you are telling me that the JDM b16a and the EDM b16a1 are different engines? right so honda decided to make 2 completely different engines from the same cast? uhhh no, as discussed on a few sites it is a guess that the ECU is the cause for the 10hp difference, not any internal engine differences, i am not mad that someone corrected me, it is the fashion in which you did it....so maybe you should rethink how you approach things, i know that you feel that you have something to prove because you are a woman and this is a male dominated scene, but save your estrogen for your boyfriend because i dont need that shit......you sadden me

[amy@af]

Originally Posted by CRXtc

so you are telling me that the JDM b16a and the EDM b16a1 are different engines? right so honda decided to make 2 completely different engines from the same cast? uhhh no, as discussed on a few sites it is a guess that the ECU is the cause for the 10hp difference, not any internal engine differences, i am not mad that someone corrected me, it is the fashion in which you did it....so maybe you should rethink how you approach things, i know that you feel that you have something to prove because you are a woman and this is a male dominated scene, but save your estrogen for your boyfriend because i dont need that shit......you sadden me

they are both b16a1 but they are not both 160hp. that is not correct to sit there and say they are the same thing with the same set-up. the VT & SiR have different trannys...you never even mentioned that. i NEVER said anything internal made the 10hp difference.

there is nothing wrong with what i said. i simply stated i don't know why yopu were acting like i knew nothing. you need to rethink YOUR approach. i find it funny you are acting as if you didn't call me a bitch, an ass, and then you continued to show us what a big man you were by making real adult remarks like

you got your thong in a wad......

and

but save your estrogen for your boyfriend because i dont need that shit......

ummmm, yea...you show me 1 remark where i called you a foul name or tried to disrespect you as you tried to disrespect me. you think you were being whitty. try again. you keep claiming i corrected you in an unfair manor & called you names as YOU talk shit

[amy@af]

sorry sean price it's obvious where this thread is going.

if you check the links you will find there is a difference in the JDM SiR and the EDM VT (civic or crx). there are big differences like the LHD or RHD or there are little differences like in the interior.

bottom line....they are similiar but NOT THE SAME