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Re: Lancer Evolution 8 Vs. Neon SRT-4. (Video)

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Holy skylines Batman! Slightly modded? yea right
Took the words right out of my mouth, there is nothing slightly modded about that Neon.
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Re: Lancer Evolution 8 Vs. Neon SRT-4. (Video)

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my friend has a zx2 sport, and its not slow at all, he just has intake and some good tires and he spanks up on civics and all kinds of cars, last night he took a 90 si with i/e by 2 cars

Aww c'mon man, ZX2's are like 17 second cars.
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srt 4 is a great car runs 14 -14.5 I got to drive one it was fun not bad for a neon. but did not like the viper seats
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There arent enough mods out to make an srt-4 that fast.
Look think what you want but did you ever hear that Mitsubishi struggle through a gear? Obviously there are enough performance oriented parts for that engine, this particular Neon shows that.

This is what I can't believe. Thats basically $2,000 cheaper then a fully loaded S-10 Xtreme.
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Whats the picture of, devil? I only see a red dot....
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Fuckin a....well its the window sticker, it says the price is $19,995.
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the driver in the Evo 8 sucks, is a BIG dissappointment hearing and watchin it . i need to look at Evo killin other cars. but NICE video
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Re: Lancer Evolution 8 Vs. Neon SRT-4. (Video)

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That guy in the evo needs to learn how to drive. No way an srt-4 would win by that much, he wasted the evo like no other. I dont care what stage neon you have, and evo isnt exactly a pushover. There arent enough mods out to make an srt-4 that fast.
You don't know crap about the SRT-4 then. It is putting 223HP and 250 ft/lbs of torque to the wheels. So it is putting maybe 30HP less to the crank than the Evo. A stage 2 kit will have you beating an Evo a stage 3 will give you what you saw in that video.

There is an SRT-4 that runs 9s in the 1/4 mile perhaps they in the 8s by now. Don't underestimate the SRT-4. Dodge has been turbocharging longer than Mitsubishi has.
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Re: Re: Lancer Evolution 8 Vs. Neon SRT-4. (Video)

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Dodge has been turbocharging longer than Mitsubishi has.


Yeah, but hasn't Chyrsler been using Mitsu motors in its old turbo cars?


Like the Colt, the DSM cars, probably your Lebaron...


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Re: Re: Lancer Evolution 8 Vs. Neon SRT-4. (Video)

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You don't know crap about the SRT-4 then. It is putting 223HP and 250 ft/lbs of torque to the wheels. So it is putting maybe 30HP less to the crank than the Evo. A stage 2 kit will have you beating an Evo a stage 3 will give you what you saw in that video.

There is an SRT-4 that runs 9s in the 1/4 mile perhaps they in the 8s by now. Don't underestimate the SRT-4. Dodge has been turbocharging longer than Mitsubishi has.
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FYI: Mitsubishi made the turbos that Chrysler used, if not the whole motor.
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Re: Re: Lancer Evolution 8 Vs. Neon SRT-4. (Video)

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You don't know crap about the SRT-4 then. It is putting 223HP and 250 ft/lbs of torque to the wheels. So it is putting maybe 30HP less to the crank than the Evo. A stage 2 kit will have you beating an Evo a stage 3 will give you what you saw in that video.

There is an SRT-4 that runs 9s in the 1/4 mile perhaps they in the 8s by now. Don't underestimate the SRT-4. Dodge has been turbocharging longer than Mitsubishi has.
I doubt that SRT-4 in the vid runs 9's or even mid 12's.
A Lancer is STILL not a pushover. That Neon blew it away by TOO much, the Evo guy just cant drive. An Evo is by no means slow, if the Neon was going to beat it then it would have been a closer race, not a 2million car lengths ahead race like in the vid.
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Aww c'mon man, ZX2's are like 17 second cars
his is a freak then, its not really that slow, he rolls with us whenever we go out and cruise or whatever and we roll civics with gsr's, new sti, srt4, modded gti's, he never gets left behind, his really isnt that slow for a near stock car
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I never said that the SRT-4 in that video can run 9s in the 1/4 mile. I said that there is one that can and I said it because you made the statement that an SRT-4 can't be made to go that fast. If he had the stage three kit installed on his SRT-4 and the Evo was stock that is what would happen. Stock the SRT-4 runs mid to low 14s. It takes very little to get one in the 12s. You need to open your mind. I can tell you just don't like the SRT-4.

Chysler used "some" Mitsubishi turbos and engines but very few. Chrysler designed and built the 2.2L I4 in my LeBaron. Let me give you a rundown of the engines used in the turbo time period.

1984-1987 Turbo I: Chrysler designed and built 2.2L I4 with a Garrett T03 turbo.

1988 Turbo I: Chrysler designed and built 2.2L I4 with a Mitsubishi TE04H turbo.

1989-1993 Turbo I: Chrysler designed and built 2.5L I4 with a Mitsubishi TE04H turbo.

1987-1989 Turbo II: Chrysler designed and built 2.2L I4 with an intercooled Garrett T03 turbo.

1989-1990 Turbo IV: Chrysler designed and built 2.2L I4 with an intercooled Garrett VNT25 turbo.

1991-1993 Turbo III: Chrysler designed and built 2.2L block with a Lotus head. Intercooled GarrettTB03 turbo.

As you can see Mitsubishi never made a turbo charged engine for the Chrysler and oonly one for the Dodge cars, the Stealth. They did make the 2.0L I4 and turbo in the DSMs, but they weren't Chryslers at all. The 3.0L N/A V6 used in the LeBarons was also a Mitsubishi. And used in very few cars there was an N/A 2.6L V6 from Mitsubishi in the early 80s. Chrysler used their own engines and Garrett turbos more than Mitsubishi. Both engines in my LeBarons are Chrysler designed and built by the same engineeres that designed the 440 V8. I feel that the 2.2L/2.5L engines in the turbo cars werer far stronger than the 2.0L used in the DSMs. Chrysler knows how to build strong engines. Also the SRT-4 engine is designed and built by Chrsyler the turbo is a Mitsubishi.

I am not trying to debate that Mitsubishi is bad. Hell Chrysler owns 85% of the voting stock, they pretty much own the company. There is even going to be a Dodge version of the Evo 8. I am just trying to point out that it the SRT-4 can eat the Evo up with some factory modifications. Also that Chrysler has knowlege in turbocharging and made their own engines and used mostly Garrett turbos. I am proud of that.
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I've yet to see a fast evo factory standard or even lightly modified, under a rolling condition. Where they make up all their performance is off the line and up to about 75 mph or about 180kph. They really do not have long legs and are built and designed more towards a rally type of car than a pure street car.

Either way that SRT handed him his nuggets lol.
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first of all ill start on the Evo. The driver cant drive. To launch an Evo you need to hold the revs pretty high to get into the power band. That guy pulled off low down the revs, so it got no take off. Notice how the Evo drops back very quickly and then keeps up once it has reached its powerband.

Also, slightly modded can mean anything. The comparison is void as soon as you know either of them arent standard.

And we all know which is the better performance car overall.
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