Sweet Civic ??

[Options]

Naw, took em off my self

[Options]

Options i think youre the moron here. this guy wants to keep up with modded z28's and trans am's. you think his car with body kit and system could hit a 14.5 with a high compression ex motor? you have got to be kidding me. i like tuning but i believe in starting with a strong base as well. he needs to hit 13's to keep up with those other cars and an NA ex motor would never do that with his exterior mods. turbocharging the ex would be good too but it would never equal an ls turbo. i dont think there is anything wrong with engine swaps. that is still considered tuning no matter what you say. oh and put 500 bucks into your engine and you could beat the rest of us? id love to see you try. when you get that 500 bucks bring your pos along and try and beat my swap. ill start in second and still kill you.

HAHAHAHA, your funny, i have an idea why dont you get an idea of what your talking about and then come back and talk to me. a NA ex motor could never hit 13's you say??? I beg to differ, All he needs to do is do some head work get some domed pistons, some beefer rods, and drop some weight w/ some basic bolt on's and he can run 13's While he is add it he should advance the timing a few degrees and get a cam with 272@60 duration, oh and im sorry if your to much of an idiot to know what those numbers mean. also boring out the throttle body wouldnt hurt at all. and when he goes to the track take off the whole exhaust system and he can run 13's. And yes if you gave me 500 dollars i would light you up like no tomorrow. oh one more thing if an ex motor could never run 13's explain to me how the fastest N/A civic is running 10's with an SOHC 1.6 liter motor?? Oh i forgot you cant because your just another ricer like all the rest, stick with your wings and body kits and leave racing to people who actually know what there talking about. In the mean time go look up what those numbers mean and then once you have a glimpse of what im talking about come back here with your swap and get your ass owned by a SOHC 1.6 liter and then go home and tell your women your a pussy.

[Ricochet]

damn someone needs laid

[Miataracer]

man o man... I can hardly see from the tears of laughter in my eyes

[edman24]

wow options you are an idiot. first of all dont talk about me being a ricer especially when youre the one with a stock ass hx with an intake thinking you are the shit. you dont even know what i drive and you already assume you can beat me and that i have a big body kit and a spoiler. what a fag. ill have you know that my eg hatch has a fully built ls/vtec engine that would make your piece of shit look like it is going in reverse. keep in mind i helped build the engine. it doesnt have any body kit or wing so you can suck my ass on that one. oh and about his car running 13's with a built ex motor? id LOVE to see time slips for that. especially when he has full interior, big system, and a body kit. that civic you are talking about that ran 10's with a sohc motor has nothing to do with this guy. did i ever say sohc's were slow? no retard, but for his car to get into 13's with an ex motor, especially NA, it would cost more then a b18b turbo which would be faster in the long run anyways, not to mention more reliable. that 10 second civic is a full tube frame chassis with a fiberglass body, absolutely no interior and in no way is it streetable, so dont compare apples and oranges.

dont talk down to me either you little bitch. i know more about engines then you could ever imagine. yah why doesnt he take off his exhaust that way he'll run 13's. man what a moron. heard of something called backpressure? ill let you figure that one out on your own. oh and about the 272 degree cam. that would require an entirely new valvetrain, not to mention it would idle like crap. this guy wants to be able to drive his car everyday and be comfortable.

p.s.
hey moron at least i have a woman to go home to. im not a loser like you who looks forward to goin home to their right hand, a kleenex, and some ky jelly. hey man wipe off your monitor, your aim is off.
Options

oh and miataracer, why you cryin again? which part did you think was funny?

[edman24]

oh and one more thig options, once you get that 500 bucks into your car id love to race you. ill give you second gear advantage too you homo. well see what your hx can do against my 14 second hatch. oh and it ran 14's when it was still untuned and with a stock head. not to mention full interior and crappy tires. now things are a little different. so let me know

[Miataracer]

This whole thing has been pretty funny. I don't know either of you but edman I have read posts here and there about your ls/vtec so I can believe that. Its just funny how someone asks a serious question and people who don't really know start giving advice. Then people who probably do know what they are talking about start picking eachother apart. AND THIS IS NOT TO SAY YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT, OPTIONS. Take it easy fella... I do not intend to have it taken that way. That is why I said I don't know either of you. It pretty much all goes back to the volley of posts from one person to the other about who is right/who is wrong. Lets all gang up on the people who talk out their @sses about how to mod cars, that would be much more fun! Where is the Honda Spyda when you need him anyway?? Personally, I don't like to give advice of any kind unless I am pretty damn sure what I am saying is correct. I think a lot of people on this forum are good people and have knowledge to be shared but they get way too serious and offended over what gets said. I also think I have said too much already. I am sure someone will proy get pissed at me now and point out the fact that all I drive is a crappy stock 94 ex with 160K on it and I am a new guy around here. Oh well, it's all good. I love my car and if I know how to help someone I will do so, if I don't know, I will keep my d@mn mouth shut.

That is my long-winded post for the night/morning!

[Jas_M]

Watching an pissing contest in a chat forum is always funny. Miata, i'm in the same boat as you, I've got a stock '00 Civic EX coupe, only i don't know jack about cars. But i'm here to learn. The hard part is separating the good info from the bad, although the occasional bitch fights that break out are funny.
Where oh where has the Spyda/Spyder disappeared to? Those crab rims, i mean, Spyer rims were so dope!

[edman24]

i understand exactly what youre saying miata but i really cant stand people giving innaccurate advice especially when they are giving the advice to someone who wouldnt know any better. not to mention he is convinced his info is correct and wont listen to reason. the only reason i get into piss fights is to try and keep the information that i know is correct on top. i dont want this guy going out and spending 5k on a built ex motor and not getting the 13's he expected because Options told him so.

i dont give advice unless im absolutely sure as well. oh and when someone starts calling me a ricer who doesnt know about engines i take it personally. im only 16 but i have been studying cars since i was 8 years old. and for those of you haters out there, no my mommy and daddy did not give me the money for my car and mods. i worked my ass off for 3 summers to earn what i got and when someone tries to degrade that i get irritated.

ok i think im done unless Options says something else stupid.

[Options]

dont talk down to me either you little bitch. i know more about engines then you could ever imagine. yah why doesnt he take off his exhaust that way he'll run 13's. man what a moron. heard of something called backpressure? ill let you figure that one out on your own. oh and about the 272 degree cam. that would require an entirely new valvetrain, not to mention it would idle like crap. this guy wants to be able to drive his car everyday and be comfortable.

First off im not TELLING him to do ne thing im simply giving him my 2 cents, and to get a 272 cam he does not need a completely new valve train, it will go right in, I know because ive helped do it.

BACKPRESSURE, HAHAHAHA you dont want ne backpressure.

Backpressure is the most widely mis-used terms there is.

"THE TRUTH OF BACKPRESSURE"

Backpressure is used on engines to

(1) help with fuel economy
(2) help with meeting emissions laws

On a tuned high performance engine Backpressure is not needed in fact Backpressure will hinder HP gains. There was a test done in SCC car magazine where they did a header comparison on a B18C in a Acura Integra and guess what just for fun they did a dyno run with no header at all. The run with out a header made more gains threw out the full RPM range than any header they tested. Now keep in mind no header no Backpressure.

Now you say you dont give advice unless your completely sure, well i suggest that you go back and do more reading because obviously you do not know what your talking about, now im not saying your stupid or ne thing im simply stating that you dont know everything, you claim to.

especially when he has full interior, big system, and a body kit.

Maybe if you read my posts a little closer i said if he dropped some weight he could get into the 13's I NEVER said he could do it with full interior.

[Swonder67]

Originally posted by edman24


who looks forward to goin home to their right hand, a kleenex, and some ky jelly. hey man wipe off your monitor

My keyboard is sticky too. 333333333399994833333333 sorry, the numbers were stuck downnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. ooops


you may know engines, but I KNOW KY jelly... That shit helps me get 10's nightly.....

giddy up lube

[edman24]

so youre saying you run a 272 cam on stock valvetrain for an everyday car? i wonder how long that lasted i never said it wouldnt fit. what i meant was that running such a high lift cam on stock valve springs and retainers runs a very high risk of binding (if you know what that is). also about backpressure, without the header it may have generated greater overall hp but what about the torque curve? remember this is an everyday car he is driving!! not to mention the fact that even if he did remove the exhaust how much power would that actually give him? maybe 1/10 off his quarter. also about dropping weight. the guy clearly stated he has all the body kit, and sounds he needs so now he wants the go portion. nowhere in that post did it mention that he would consider removing any of it for a faster quarter mile. and i doubt he would consider it because of the time and money spent on that kind of stuff. i read your posts twice over and yes you did state he must lose weight but when being asked a question you answer in a way that suits the person asking the question. and i highly doubt this guy wants to hear that he has to lose his show and sounds for a quicker quarter time.

oh and Swonder im glad you are enjoying yourself

[JDMAccordLX]

Originally posted by edman24
wow options you are an idiot. first of all dont talk about me being a ricer especially when youre the one with a stock ass hx with an intake thinking you are the shit.

Edman24... If you look real close, I mean real close... You'll see that he drives a DX. Not to say you make yourself look like an ass, well, yeah, yeah you do. Anyway, just thought I'd point that out.

[Swonder67]

Originally posted by JDMAccordLX


Edman24... If you look real close, I mean real close... You'll see that he drives a DX. Not to say you make yourself look like an ass, well, yeah, yeah you do. Anyway, just thought I'd point that out.

You don't gotta look that close, you can tell cuz the throttle body is pointed up, not sideways

[candlaudio]

ok see edman24, you a whole lot of people on here is reason why everyday, more and more i want to prove all you swappers wrong, you talk about how you cant get any good power out of a dx or ex or lx or any d series motor, well im with options, i would rather spend about 3000 less on my d15b7 than you and your 5 or 6 grand motor and probably spank your ass, i mean maybe not but hey alot of us arent trying to build a motor for speed alot of us do it cause it gets us away from the women and it is a hobby, OH YEAH and by the way i was building motors when you were a cum stain on the wall, so yes if you do it right you can build a 13 second or even 12 second d series motor, all you have to do is just research and ask shops and get the right parts put in and it can be done, so you dont come on here with your 16 year old ass thinking you know more than everyone else, cause you dont, there are guys on here that know more than will ever think about knowing and have been building motors as long as your parents have been around, but i will give you this much, i do admire you for stating that you worked your ass off for everything you have, cause i am the same way, my parents never bought me a car, i bought every car i have ever owned.......

well i think i gave my worth on the subject..