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Old 08-09-2003, 04:18 PM   #16
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The RB20 is the weakest of the skyline engines (puny bottem end and weird valve set up) and its only 2 liters so whats the point of having the extra weight of a I6

anyhoo if your upgrading turbos Flat Tops (black or red) are the way to go due to the high port design. but the later models have less milage and more power stock they both can make big power so i geuss its up to you what you want

a few of the choices you list are also Transverse Set ups (I think)
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Old 08-09-2003, 05:09 PM   #17
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due to the high port design.

ive read this line a trabillion times and still havent recieved good hardcore info on why this is better or not..

not just one of those "cause" answers. anyone with some real info on the reasoning behind high port being better than lowport with vtc please post.
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Old 08-09-2003, 05:11 PM   #18
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i see.....ok now what about engineset VS frontclip.. i understand you get everything with the front clip but since i have a s14 why would i need any other parts off a s13 sr20det clip then engine, tranny, ignitor and harness, intercooler, starter, altenator, a/c stuff which wont go on


the reason i ask this is because from my shop i can buy both engineset or front clip so below are my options (note these prices dont include shipping)

OPTIONS are for sr20det s13 clip...maybe black maybe red they dont guarentee because its a huge distributor and cannot physically look.

1.) a engine set that includes engine w/turbo, tranny and ecu but no harness for 1400. find a harness online or ebay for 100 bucks, FMIC for 600-700, nice BOV 200-300, use STock radiator and leave out the fuel system untill i decide on which route i want to go. PRICE TOTAL: 2300 but might not include altenator or starter, so in that event what do you guys do??? Also i can have some one adapt the stock A/C to work on the sr20det motor

2.)Front clip for 2500. includes everything i need. BUT since this car wont be stock sr20det for long, and due to the price increase of 1100 dollars for clip, ill have to delay the purchase of new intercooler and use nasty stock side ones. But will include everything i need from get go PRICE TOTAL:2500 stock sr20det


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Old 08-09-2003, 05:13 PM   #19
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i do agree with ralph though...everyone seems to just say it sucks and doesnt go any further....its still a skyline motor...just older but same year as a s13 pretty much...

anyone with better info or have a rb20det swap?
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Old 08-10-2003, 12:40 AM   #20
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I'm pretty sure unstablehybrids.com liked the rb20 engine since they did a few swaps with it for their project cars. This may only be because it is a cheap engine in comparison to an rb25 or rb26, but maybe it was for ease of modification or something else.

MR2 is a great car. Very reliable, great handling, huge performance potential, etc. They do pretty well in amatuer racing. You can get a 91 for a very reasonable price and you don't have to do an engine swap...though it can be a good idea for more potential.
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Being a Supra driver I'm suprised he hasn't though of it. He did mention that he didn't want a 2 seater though, and the MR2's engine compartments are really cramped so they're a huge pain to work on. You could always rip out the wall between the engine & the trunk though .

Handling is kinda iffy, the 240 probably handles better. Great reliability though, I have around 220k on mine. Turbos blown though
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ive read this line a trabillion times and still havent recieved good hardcore info on why this is better or not..

not just one of those "cause" answers. anyone with some real info on the reasoning behind high port being better than lowport with vtc please post.

cause it just does

im not positive but i think it has to do with the angle the ports turn in the head high ports would be better because of not having to make the sharper turn for the ports to be lower in the head (the ports that attach to the manifolds) im not sure thats correct but its my take on the highport lowport thing.


Caper - HPI (from Australia) did an article on the RB20 that was pretty informitive you can see if its still on book stands or i may be able to scan it for you. anyhoo thats where i got my statement about the RB20 (nevermind about the weak bottomend i think i had a brainfart) but the head/intake still has problems and the turbos (T3) is to small to do much with
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Old 08-10-2003, 11:36 PM   #23
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thanks for the info...the only reason i question the sr20det is because i dont know how it will hold in the actuall Track racing world...i dont see many people actually racing these engines besides in drift in japan. What im looking for is a engine that will hold its own and wont turn weak after a year of heavy racing...also i do have plans to modify internals but would still like to run stock untill the time comes...

i hear the stock can hold over 400rwhp but how long will it last is my question


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