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#166
03-08-2003, 04:44 PM
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Vortech, youre a true idiot, oh fo sho a cobra can stomp on an M3, sure if the M3 is stock and the stang has about 12 grand into it, you put that 12 into an M3 and you could kiss your sorry ass cobra good bye. Ford cars a junk basically deal w/ it. TexasF355F1 you're a smart man, nicely put w/ the M3 comment
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#167
03-08-2003, 04:46 PM
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I'm not afraid to admit when I'm wrong and that yes I do run my mouth sometimes, and occasionally get proven wrong; case and point. But as for you to say that I'm waiting for my permit and that I couldn't retain any more info is absurd. I'm 21 if you happened to look at my profile. I did do a little research and althought I couldn't find any posted 1/4 mile times or 0-60 for the 2003 cobra I did find on Fords website that it says the supercharger has 8psi maximum. So im not sure about the 15psi but will take your word on it, however, if you push the charger to this limit it may break. I dont know where you have seen chevy copycatting. Chevy wont put a supercharger on their engines i dont think b/c they try to get the most of the engine without it. And i didn't say anything about an '03 Camaro/Firebird, that is why i said the z28 could run circles around the cobra before. Anyways, I really should make sure i have my facts straight before saying something and it was stupid on my part b/c it made me look like i dont know anything about cars, which i do since ive been into them since i was 3. I will admit to you though that i have no real problem with mustangs and happen to find the new cobra a very very gorgous car and i love the sound of all v8 stangs. Hopefully things are now cleared up and we can get along like two civilized mature adults.
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#168
03-08-2003, 04:48 PM
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Thanks AC, but I was wrong on several parts and I had to admit that.
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#169
03-08-2003, 05:59 PM
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Vortech,
You keep thinking that nobody in this Forum knows much about cars. Did you install the Blower yourself? I could talk blowers all day long with you since I installed 2 whipples on my 28 foot awesome Cats twin 502's. I have built several small and big block motors both ford and chevy in my garage and anything I cant figure out I will gladly pay a proffesional to do. The thing you forget is that any idoit can work on a ford; whereas you have to know your shit to work on a european car. You have made several ties to ignorance well your ignorance has shown through time and time again just by trying to prove your point. I am sorry if your feelings got hurt when I said the Ford Cobra sucks and you should have bought a quality car. Racist you say! How the fuck would you know? UNEDUCATED sorry I am not the one driving the FORD! |
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#170
03-09-2003, 02:45 AM
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My point has been proven---everything I have said is true---and I didn't say you needed $12K of suspension work--that was about $4K. You don't know what you're talking about. You don't know shit about a cobra---and if you think a europena car and engine is that much different than an american one----well---you are a buffoon and someone who is simply blowing smoke on the board. I don't need to know how to install a blower---to know the delicate mechanical works of one. Understanding the concept of how one works is totally different than understanding how to install one-----so I really don't know how you think that makes you even more knowledgable. Email Eaton---my facts can be corroborated. I don't stress points that I can't back up. Like I said----plenty of mustang magazines have done all the aftermarket part swaps---and thats where my points gain their basic foundation. And if you think those swaps were all bullshit----then we can't go further with this--until you get your head out of your Ass.
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"If you want to outrun a Viper, just slap a blower on a Cobra and rebuild the rear end" 2001 mustang cobra convertibe Vortech V-2 SQ blower (10.5psi) 4:10 gears & ford racing throttle body 03 JBA shorty headers + FR500 exhaust Bassani X-pipe Kenny Brown IRS level 2 suspension IRS pinion brace Kenny Brown K-member & control arms Carbon Fiber driveshaft 522RWHP / 493RWTQ |
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#171
03-09-2003, 06:35 AM
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good to see this post progress in a clean, sophisticated manner.
 btw, IMO, to compare a cobra and M3 is ludicrous. power is one thing. handling and finesse is quite another. the Cobra cant touch the M3 in that (most important) dimension |
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#172
03-10-2003, 10:13 AM
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Vortech, you are a fanatic like you said. David Duke is a fanatic too, he is not qualified to give advice, and neither are you. You are biggot, do not deny it. You hate anything on the road that does not have the blue oval badge on it. How typical. If you were not insecure of your cars performance you would not be looking so closely at other cars' perfomance numbers. I know nothing about racing modifications? What you know, you learned from magazines, all you do is look at numbers on paper. I actually worked on a 91 GT, installing Griggs and few other mods. I know the strengths and weakneses of this car, especially the weakness of the stock suspension. To get a Mustang to handle like an M3 you have to tighten the suspension so hard that you can not drive it on the street. Griggs put comparisons of their car to stock Ferraris, even though their car has racing tires, that is an unfair comparison. You have some nerve coming here and comparing your modified V8 against a stock 6 cylinder. Why don't you go to the Corvette forum so the guys there can laugh at you?
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#173
03-10-2003, 10:23 AM
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wow thank you ringo, what a genious
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#174
03-10-2003, 10:40 AM
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#176
03-10-2003, 05:27 PM
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ringworm
what are you talking about? the inline 6 in the M3 makes as much power as the non-blown DOHC. Not a fair comparison? Its good enough to put into a $50K bimmer---but it can't be offered for comparison on V8. Now thats silly. And you have the nerve to compare a Griggs suspension on a foxbody---as if it were the same on SN95 platform. Thats one of the stupidest comparisons anyone can make when the foxbody and SN95 have different road manners even with that kind of suspension. Oh by the way----griggs suspension is so stiff since its tailored more to drag racing, not like everyday liveability like a Kenny Brown or Maximum Motorsports setup. How can you even think that a drag race suspension is going to be comfortable like the two latter suspensions are. You claim to have installed a Griggs----but I really doubt it. What you said----is simply BS. But these other guys won't know the difference--since they are as clueless as you. What does discussing one cars suspension have to do with insecurity? You may think you know what you are talking about----but those 'suspension remarks' clearly showed that you my friend are the magazine racer. Any knowledgable stang suspension installer would agree with me. You won't because you aren't part of that brass.
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"If you want to outrun a Viper, just slap a blower on a Cobra and rebuild the rear end" 2001 mustang cobra convertibe Vortech V-2 SQ blower (10.5psi) 4:10 gears & ford racing throttle body 03 JBA shorty headers + FR500 exhaust Bassani X-pipe Kenny Brown IRS level 2 suspension IRS pinion brace Kenny Brown K-member & control arms Carbon Fiber driveshaft 522RWHP / 493RWTQ |
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#177
03-10-2003, 05:31 PM
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I am not sure if this has been mentioned somewhere in the 6894 pages of this thread, but how about the Nissan 350Z?
 In the Best Motoring Vol. 6 video, Japanese professional race car drivers raced an M3, Boxter (non-S), S2000, and 350Z on a track. All cars were stock. The Z got 1st place, M3 second, and S2000 3rd.
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#179
03-10-2003, 07:06 PM
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Granted, im not a fan of Japanese cars at all, with exception of the NSX, its ok. The Z however impresses me. I really think the overall design, and power are great. I still would never buy one. I'd find my money be better spent buying a German quality car, the M3 to be exact.
Vortech, you are biased. The reason that the M3 and Cobra should have no business competing is that they are in a totally different class. I think that even if someones opinion was 100% factual you would still fight for your blue oval b/c to you that is the best car in the world. I am a GM fan but I as well as you do, have to admit that the quality of American cars suck in comparison with anything from overseas. |
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#180
03-10-2003, 07:19 PM
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I do not see how you can say that your money is better spent buying a "German" quality car over a Japanese one. Many believe that Japanese build amazing quality automobiles, and that is not unfounded. ....especially the 350Z. I was originally planning to purchase an M3, but changed my mind and bought a 350Z instead for 20 grand less. I do not see at all how you can better spend $37,000 on a German car over a 350Z. Please enlighten me. Here is what Consumer Reports's research shows - "American and European brands in 2002 had 21 problems per 100 vehicles, while the Asian brands had just 12 problems per vehicle; Toyota led them all with 10 problems per vehicle."
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