Nostradamus' "Mabus"

[Milliardo]

Note: what I post here is not my idea. I only post this in relation to what is said about the Bush administration. This was posted a year ago--October 2, 2002--and may or may not be true, but the possibility is there:

I've found Nostradamus' Mabus

About two weeks ago I came across a few web sites dealing with the Nostradamus prediction. To my surprise, nobody has seriously tried to decode the Century 1, Quatrain 50.

Century 1, Quatrain 50
From the three water signs will be born a man
who will celebrate Thursday as his feast day.
His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East.

The above quoted quatrain best describes the Third Antichrist. The up-to-date given explanations, which I have found on the web, seem to be too mystical and non-conclusive.
I guess fate has left the decoding to me.

To start to understand the quatrain, it is necessary to know a little bit about the author. I can imagine Nostradamus standing in his dark, cave-like room, surrounded by mirrors in front of a bowl of water. Somehow, he is able to transfer his senses to places far away time-wise and far away distance-wise. To explore the Third Antichrist, Nostradamus goes on a virtual tour to the place of the third Antichist's birth. Yes, the "three water sign" is the best description of the place from which, in the future, the third Antichrist would be born. At first glimpse, I must admit, many of you may say "What kind of a description is that?" Well, he sees a region; and the only description worth mentioning that he comes up with is "the three water signs." Lieutenant Colombo would say: It is important what he sees; and also, what he does not see. He does not see any cities, any roads. He sees a land undisturbed by a civilization from which, in the future, the third Antichrist would be born. He sees the land as it is in his Sixteenth Century. He sees "the three water signs" as a foundation best suited in the region for future settlements. However, before we can find our mystery land, we have to decode line 2 of his quatrain.

"who will celebrate Thursday as his feast day"

The key words are "Thursday" and "feast". We have to ask ourselves, "Who would ever have feasts on Thursday?" It just happens that I asked the same question many years ago; and I was told: "Many, many years ago a group of pilgrims was in a state of starvation and suddenly a group of turkeys walked into their room. The turkeys were like God giving gifts and the answer to their prayers. They where the first to have a feast on Thursday. We call that feast Thanksgiving now."
Yes, Nostradamus gives us a country. Our blessed USA is the only country in the world which has a holiday like that, which comes once a year-only on Thursday.

Just now, we do know the country; let us see if we can find our mystery "the three water sign" land.
Thanks to Mr. Gore's Internet, we can also (as Nostradamus did) take a virtual tour.
I downloaded the quote below from an official state web site:

"The flag was adopted in 1897. On a field of azure blue is an ornamental white shield with three grapevines, each bearing three bunches of purple grapes. The state's motto He who Transplanted Sustains Us is displayed on a white ribbon. The three grapevines are thought to represent the three settlements (New Haven, Saybrook and Connecticut) which came together to form the state. "

We have to put ourselves in Nostradamus's shoes. How would you describe in three words the State of Connecticut during the Sixteenth Century?--- "the three water signs" - is the best it can be.
The presence of water has been always the base of most human settlement, an elementary requirement of any major settlement. Small signs of water bring an overnight camper - an abundance of water brings also neighbors and then a city into its surroundings. If we, as humans, would find "the water signs" even in far away places like Mars or Venus, five hundred years later "the water signs" would become a settlement. "The water signs" are synonomous with settlements. Nostradamus, when he wrote the quatrain meant:
From the State (Connecticut) of the three settlements (New Haven, Saybrook and Connecticut) would be born a man
in a country where he and his countrymen celebrate Thanksgiving (USA).

The only problem which I have so far is how I'm going to tell to my priest that the Third Antichrist has been born in (New) Haven.

Before we tackle the next issue, we have to better understand the meaning of Antichrist.
I myself see a man dressed in a red outfit with two horns growing from his forehead and holding a pitchfork in his right hand. I do not believe this is Nostadamus's Antichrist. I, also, do not believe it has to be a non-Christian. Let us take a look at the two previous Nostradamus Antichrists. Neither Napoleon nor Hitler made as a primary objective a crusade against the Christian church. They both were born in Christian countries. Napoleon is still viewed in many European countries as a leader who promised to bring freedom and more democratic institutions to the subjects of the Austro-Hungarian and Russian Empires. They both were leaders who were waging wars which in the end brought untold suffering to their nations and the remainder of the World. Nostradamus, in one of his quatrains, states that Napoleon took the flower (the best men) of the French society and spread their bones all over the globe.

Now, it is time to take a look at the remaining two lines of the quatrain.

"His renown, praise, rule and power will grow
on land and sea, bringing trouble to the East."

"His renown, praise, rule" describes a powerful political leader.
And the words: "power will grow
on land and sea" describe a military leader in command of land and navy forces.
And "bringing trouble to the East" is somebody who wants to "improve" governments in North Korea and Egypt, and more than a few countries between them.

So we are looking for a somebody in the good old USA, born in the state of Connecticut, who holds both political and military powers. Somebody like a commander-in-chief of political and military life who would not mind "a regime change" in a few countries in the East.

To be politically correct, to descibe the man, I would prefer to use the term "person of interest", instead of Nostradamus's Antichrist. Somehow it sounds more correct in our troubling times.

The last clue as to the identity of our "person of interest", is the name which Nostradamus gives us.
Nostradamus gave us a five letter name. Our "person of interest" has a six letter name -- the intials of the two first names plus a four letter family name. Three of the letters of the Nostradamus name match our "person of interest" without any smoking mirrors-the letters match perfectly. I have seen a few web sites dealing with the name issue. Basically, you drop the " h" which is silent in Latin, flip "m" bottom to-the-top, and "m" becomes "w", and handwritten the letter "a", when flipped from left to the right, reads as "q".

Well, I found one more quatrain in which the two first lines also describe the identity of our "person of interest".

Century 2, Quatrain 30
One who the infernal gods of Hannibal
Will cause to be reborn, terror of all mankind
Never more horror nor the newspapers tell of worse in the past,
Than will come to the Romans through Babel.

Again, the key words are "infernal gods" and "reborn". Apparently, we should look for a somebody with a less than perfect behavior during his youth years and who would later become reborn to a new religion. Briefly: a dude when young, reborn in Christ later.
One day I may try to explore the quatrain a little deeper.

[jon@af]

Didnt Nostradamus also predict the end of the world like 2 different times? It's all a bunch of crap to me

[boingo82]

Originally posted by ILike2DriveCars
Didnt Nostradamus also predict the end of the world like 2 different times? It's all a bunch of crap to me

Problem is, it's all so vague it could be interpreted to be talking about ANYTHING.

[Milliardo]

Prophecy is often understood in hindsight--meaning it is revealed after the events have happened. It isn't meant to be 100% accurate; such a thing would be quite impossible. However, it does not mean it is not meant to be partly understood, or even that it shouldn't be understood way before an event should happen. Common sense, logic, and some knowledge about the subject would help. Working with those, one can have quite a good grasp about what is being said.

I'd like to point out that I am not the author of that. I found it in another message board, though I would also like to say that, after much deduction and thought, the possibility is much more than what is not. Some questions I asked myself, as a guide, are: which nation has the capability, the power, the resources to dominate the world? Which nation presently dominates the world in all aspects: militarily, politically, religiously, morally, culturally--indeed, in almost its entirety? Which nation matches perfectly what is said of where the Great Terror (my term for the AntiChrist) will rule with all the power at his command? One must be honest, look around, and realize that there is no other nation, no other power, no other organization in the world today which has all of these--than the United States of America.

[Graphik Styles]

yeh i dunno how many of you guys know this........but the world trade center prediction was fake.........it was created by a university student in 2001 who was trying to prove that it could mean anything because it was so vague....................

[GTi-VR6_A3]

Originally posted by De$i Gank$ta
yeh i dunno how many of you guys know this........but the world trade center prediction was fake.........it was created by a university student in 2001 who was trying to prove that it could mean anything because it was so vague....................

booyah...

-GTi-VR6_A3

[Milliardo]

Originally posted by De$i Gank$ta
yeh i dunno how many of you guys know this........but the world trade center prediction was fake.........it was created by a university student in 2001 who was trying to prove that it could mean anything because it was so vague....................

Yes, students of Nostradamus were aware of that. However, quite interestingly, the one who made it up actually took pieces from Nostradamus' quatranes. I'll find the pertinent quatranes that closely matched that event.

[speediva]

Why wasn't the "Antichrist" born in Pittsburgh, PA??? We have 3 rivers. It's our trademark symbol.

I'll buy into human intuition, and heck, even some parts of prediction and ESP and other perifora, but this is too much...

[Milliardo]

Why wouldn't that man be born someplace else? Well, it's been said that at least certain events were preordained; therefore, when a prophecy is made, it only follows a path already destined for someone to take. Again, life does offer a lot of possibilities, and it might be that the person in question--and indeed, all of us--might choose an alternate path. But if that person continues onto some date with his destiny, then he thus fulfills what has been prophecied.

I fancy that for most, even non-Americans, such a thing would be too much. No prophet, or even his words, are taken seriously by those who hear or read them, until the time comes and the events are transpiring. By then, it would be too late to stop the chain of events. I would think this will go that way as well. Yes, I also have my doubts about what was posted here on another board. But one has to analyze and corelate all that is happening--the present reality, in short. I have placed guide questions in order for people to reflect what is happening. These should serve as a guide, in order for people to know what action they will take next.