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[XOTech]

drewwtms,

My indication also suggests that only 13 cars were originally hand-signed by Gordon Murray in the way shown on #007. I am aware of at least 2 other car owners that have returned a component to Gordon for his signature.

I don't suppose you have pictures of his other car as well, the LM.

[drewwtms]

I did have some pictures at one point of the car in England somewhere. Alas, a cleanup of our picture storage has either erased them or banished them to a far off place. I will surely put pictures up when I see the car.

[Peloton25]

Drew - thanks so much for sharing the info and photos on Frank's McLaren F1. I added the pictures to the nearly 90 that I already had of his car.

Before that Roundel article came out I actually had a conversation with someone at another forum who stated that the #007 car probably belonged to Will Turner since it was covered in the TMS stickers. Then someone else argued that it was another man who owned the car and was certainly not Will, but he didn't know the name. I did a little more digging and came up with Frank's name, but the original guy said there was no way that Frank could afford the F1 seeing as how he had to lease his M3 race car from you guys. I guess he found logic in that scenario.

With the F1's there's so many rumors that circulate the web it's hard to know what to believe. I was happy to see that I had been right when the article was printed.

Thanks also for the invitation to come and visit - I really wish I was closer as I would most certainly take you up on that.

A couple of things:

Can you confirm whether Frank owns two or three McLaren's. I know that the Roundel article you linked us to mentions just the two cars, but I have also heard that he owns a '97-spec F1 GTR long tail as well as an LM, making for a total of three. What of that is true? And if it's only two cars, is the other one really one of the 5 true F1 LM's or is it a long tail GTR or is it neither of those? I'm assuming based on XO-Tech's question that it is indeed an LM but the article claims that his other car was one of the last cars produced in 1997 while all of the F1 LM's were built in 1996.

Second related question - Is Frank still working on trying to bring this 2nd (and 3rd if true) F1 to the US? I understand the laws and regulations that are keeping it out, but XO-Tech seems convinced that someone will find a way to properly certify 1996 and later F1's in the US someday. It would be cool to know if Frank is working on being the first to do so especially since he already has a strong reason to being that he owns one.

Lastly, if Frank's other car is truly one of the LM's, would you have any way of knowing if it's the car in these three photos??







Thanks in advance for any more info you can provide.

>8^)
ER

[I-Tech]

I haven't got patience enough to read all 8 pages, so don't bitch if some have already been posted:
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[drewwtms]

Wow, there are some pretty well-informed people here! I'm both happy and a little scared that there is so much "free" information out there. I am certainly glad that I found a forum with similarly informed persons.

Here we go:

Frank does have more than one McLaren. The black one is #007 and is a 1994 model. The LM in the pictures is a genuine LM and is owned by Frank. I am very surprised that you have those pictures as I did not think they were on the web anywhere. I have not heard of anything new regarding the third McLaren. I believe the Roundel story got the LM and another model mixed up. He does not own a 1997 F1 GTR long-tail.

Bringing the LM to the US is being looked at. Frank is the man to do it if the decision is finalized. I think Frank is exactly the customer that McLaren had in mind when they designed the car. The LM is the ultimate rendition of their philosophy. It would be a shame to have the LM and not be able to use it your own country.

I am more than a little surprised at the level of information that is out there. I wish I knew more about Frank's McLarens. However, my focus at Turner Motorsport is more on the BMW side of the business. My contact with Frank is not regular so I do not wish to speak for him or for TMS. Perhaps if I talk with him more I can pass on better information.

Thanks for posting those pictures. It will be nice to have them again.

[Peloton25]

Drew - Check your email

>8^)
ER

[jkbon]

http://www.passion-auto.com/HTML/start.htm then "Nos Photos" and ... Mclaren

these guys just wait next to a french highway to photograph incredible and exceptional vehicles ...