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Dagger,

cool cool, i hate Gundam Wing with a passion. It's the worst gundam series ever but as long as u like the design then it's cool. The Heavy Arms Custom is a nice one

Jay, 0.5mm is huge!
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Jay, 0.5mm is huge!
It's plenty tiny enough for panel lines, etc. I used to use some rapidiographs that were even smaller, but I don't remember the sizes...
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Talking So just what is the Gundam fuss all about?

Personally I think ordering pens from Japan is loony when you can go to your local art supply store and get these excellent pigment markers/disposable technical pens, for anywhere from $1.50 to $2.15 each. Some office supply and craft stores sell them as well.


My favorites are the beige ones-Pigma Micron. Available in sizes from .005 up to .08, in black and other colors, also separately or in sets. Found these last week for $2.15 each at two different local art supply stores. Also found these others, the Staedtler and Itoya. The Itoya was the cheapest, the Staedtler the same price/quality as the Pigma.


Here you can see how small/precise the various tips are. The ink is very black, covers immediately.


As you can see they easily work on panel lines.

The internet is great, but I couldn't fathom ordering simple office supplies for our models all the way from Japan...they're simply too common an item. Hope this helps!
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I meant .005 . :o

That's .005" ? Not mm?
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I had some .005 and .01 pens from, I think ZIG? I don't know, Guiddy recommended them in a post a long while back (back when I first came to the board, in fact). Long story short, the tip on my 0.005 quickly wore down to a nub (I don't know why?) and the ink didn't flow very well - very sporadic. Maybe it needed to be broken in...

Bob, I can certainly see how mad it would be to JUST order pens from Japan, but I'm including them in a larger shipment and it doesn't add to the shipping. They're only 200 yen each, 'bout $1.70, so why not? The more tools in my toolbox, the better.
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I had some .005 and .01 pens from, I think ZIG? I don't know, Guiddy recommended them in a post a long while back (back when I first came to the board, in fact). Long story short, the tip on my 0.005 quickly wore down to a nub (I don't know why?) and the ink didn't flow very well - very sporadic. Maybe it needed to be broken in...

Bob, I can certainly see how mad it would be to JUST order pens from Japan, but I'm including them in a larger shipment and it doesn't add to the shipping. They're only 200 yen each, 'bout $1.70, so why not? The more tools in my toolbox, the better.
ZIG's are yet another brand. These markers don't last forever, they are disposable. And if you're already making an order, that's fine-since their weight addition to the package in shipping costs would be negligible. I'm commenting more on the habit people have of sticking with only one solution, I see everyone here herding towards Gundam markers and wondering where to find them, when a common item is available locally that will work quite well. I don't even use these things for panel lines (I actually use them for pen and ink illustrations), I don't like the harsh black lines. I use thinned, custom-mixed Tamiya acrylic flats in a darker shade of the body color for a much more realistic, subtle appearance to my panel lines. Even on dark gray cars I use thinned Tamiya flat black, I don't like the panel lines shiny either.
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Dammit.....I ordered one from HS, and it is TAKING FOREVER TO COME!!!!!!!
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