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Exclamation 97 PA no pass PW, Door lock or mirror adjustment

No power anything on pass front door of 97 PA...checked the fuse under the dash and replaced the door module with a known good one...no help....Help?...factory service manual says to connect scanner and see if communication to door module is working...I don't have a scanner that sophisticated...any ideas?
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Re: 97 PA no pass PW, Door lock or mirror adjustment

The 10A DDM fuse is intact? Is there also 12V at the orange wire at the drivers door module (DDM)?

How about power at the red power feed wire (terminal A) at the DDM? That comes from the RAP circuit breaker.

What about the 12V logic supply coming from the yellow wire at the DDM?
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Re: 97 PA no pass PW, Door lock or mirror adjustment

Ok maybe I don't understand...but my DDM works fine...it is my PDM that is non functional
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Re: 97 PA no pass PW, Door lock or mirror adjustment

Nope - You're good. I misread the post thinking it was the DDM. What threw me off was the mirror adjustment. Some of the items still apply, however.

The PDM still needs B+ from the RAP circuit breaker on the A terminal. The DDM also needs to provide 12V via the orange wire (terminal 6) to the PDM at terminal 1. The window functions return to the DDM before the window motor is operated. The passenger side lock functions also return to the drivers door before the locks are operated.
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Re: 97 PA no pass PW, Door lock or mirror adjustment

Blue I don't have the wiring diagram, but he also has to check the grounds for the PDM........also the power wires for the PDM may be a different color...
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Re: 97 PA no pass PW, Door lock or mirror adjustment

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Re: 97 PA no pass PW, Door lock or mirror adjustment

Wow!...thanks for the wiring schematics...will help greatly.
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Re: 97 PA no pass PW, Door lock or mirror adjustment

[quote=Blue Bowtie;7202201]Nope - You're good. I misread the post thinking it was the DDM. What threw me off was the mirror adjustment. Some of the items still apply, however.

The PDM still needs B+ from the RAP circuit breaker on the A terminal. The DDM also needs to provide 12V via the orange wire (terminal 6) to the PDM at terminal 1. The window functions return to the DDM before the window motor is operated. The passenger side lock functions also return to the drivers door before the locks are operated.[/QUOTE

Terminal 6 on the DDM is a Lt Blue wire...no PDM terminal 1 shown on drawing...today I traced and verified the grounds and even ran a new one straight to the battery neg...no help...jumped the buss interface wire from the PDM to the rear bussed elec center...no help...jumped the buss interface wire from the PDM straight to the DDM terminal 5...no help...I have a supposedly good used PDM...I would like to send it to someone with one of these cars and have them test the PDM...help?...I will pay shipping both ways
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