Why are there so many Grand Prix GXP's for sale

[Gmblonde]

Had to add my comment, I own an 08 gxp, she is a beast and would NEVER trade her! That 5.3 had so much power in that build it is unreal and yes it beats the supercharged v6 with just a tap on the gas. She has beat every mustang that has had the privilege of racing me as well 4.6 and 5.0, only downfall I've came acrossed is the transmission can't handle the power and dirt roads mess with the tps. As an auto parts associate I've seen 3 other gxps in kansas come to my store looking like garbage because the owners are to lazy to keep up with the maintenance which is kind of expensive.... but regardless any car needs special maintanence to keep it showroom quality. I think this reason alone is why there are so many for sale, whether it be a bad coil, fuel pump or a leaky manifold.

[Stealthee]

Old thread, but the 5.3 doesn't "beat the supercharged V6 with just a tap of the gas."

I've raced a newer SS Monte with the LS4 and actually held him off for a good time. Stopped and talked to the guy afterward and he told me he didn't think he was going to get me at first.

[Gmblonde]

The supercharged v6 I'm talking about is the 3800 series 2 and with my experience it wasn't even a challenge. I haven't messed with monte carlos because again it wouldn't be fair to my gxp to put it up against somthing that wouldn't be a close race. The only car that has beat her was a 00 corvette, once the road straightened out it was gone.

[Stealthee]

Originally Posted by Gmblonde

The supercharged v6 I'm talking about is the 3800 series 2 and with my experience it wasn't even a challenge. I haven't messed with monte carlos because again it wouldn't be fair to my gxp to put it up against somthing that wouldn't be a close race. The only car that has beat her was a 00 corvette, once the road straightened out it was gone.

My Grand Prix is a series 3 supercharged V6.

The Monte SS is the same car as the Grand Prix GXP, just in a different skin.

And the Vette would kill you in the corners too.

[Gmblonde]

Lol like I said I had him in the corners.... apparently your not reading your just arguing. I talked to the guy once I got to the light, he was impressed and admitted the corner got him. The supercharged v6 lacks the horsepower when against an ls4. Then bodyweight comes into play, the Montecarlo could have had extra weight when racing, a caliper sticking, I shift lagging, and so on. I'd say you got lucky

[Stealthee]

If you had him in the corners the guy had no idea how to drive. A Grand Prix does not handle near as well as a Vette. In fact a Grand Prix handles terrible.

Body weight is not an issue. The Monte actually weighs less than the Grand Prix. 2 door versus 4 door is probably the main difference there.

Yes a LS4 has more power than the supercharged 3800, but horsepower isn't everything. I didn't say I beat the LS4, but I held him off until speeds got way up there. I never figured I'd beat him in the first place, I just went for the fun of it.

And I am not arguing, I am stating facts.

[Gmblonde]

Sounds more like an opinion to me, and he was experienced, he owns more than one, my father has a z06 and he has driven my car as well his opinion is the gxp was smoother than the vet at certain corners, the vet is quicker to fishtail and straighten back out around tight corners. Mabey your "facts" need more experience

[Stealthee]

I've driven a lot of cars over the years and my EXPERIENCE is that the Grand Prix is the worst handling car I have driven. I have even replaced the entire suspension and it made no difference.

It is also a fact that a Vette will out handle a Grand Prix with a proper driver behind the wheel. Just because the owner has more than one doesn't mean he knows how to drive them. I know people with more than one old school muscle car who can't properly drive them.

With a proper driver behind the wheel that you would have been a spec in his rear view.

You talk about a Vette fishtailing, a proper driver isn't going to let that happen, but lets say a Vette is more prone to fishtail, but a Grand Prix is very prone to pushing into corners due to be a nose heavy FWD.

[DrRadar]

I'm impressed with the fuel economy in the earlier posts. What can I do to improve my mileage? Two years ago, I bought a 98 GTP sedan with 67k miles. (At least that's what the odometer said.) Drives nicely but not as much punch as my 99 GTP coupe and certainly poorer fuel economy. With the 99 GTP (which I bought with 20k) I get 21-24 city and 29-30 highway. Was always satisfied with that. The 98 GTP only gets 18-20 city and 24-25 highway. I rebuilt the top end and put on a rebuilt s/c (bearings were failing...loud rattle). But no improvement in mileage. Not sure how to identify the cause for poor mileage. I've written it off to getting an old car without any knowledge of its maintenance history.

[Tech II]

Holy crap, arguing handling aspects of a grand prix vs a vette?

Just sit in each car....which has the lower center of gravity? Add to that wheel base and suspension components, and it's not even close....