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Estimates of current market values.

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Any guesses/whispers? Shoot ...
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Re: Estimates of current market values.

No one? I ask as I noticed the suggested value of a Japanese F1 recently (I know I'll get berated me not knowing the Chassis No., but you guys are the guys for the nuances and intricacies of each individual car.) was listed at - from a speculative broker, perhaps? - 6,273,500 USD or 3.9 Million pounds, and the Octane Guernsey-registered car was mentioned twice in the article as being valued at 4,000,000 pounds. The same car?
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Re: Estimates of current market values.

Sorry for a delay in responding - I was on an airplane half a day and then I was in a sleep coma for quite a long time afterwards.

It think it is impossible to create a price list like you'd be hoping for as so many of the sales that do occur happen off the radar. Also for the GTRs their individual valuations are going to fluctuate wildly based on race history, current condition, conversion for road use and several other factors.

The Japanese car is #029 and I'm not surprised by the price - I am only surprised it has been for sale now for roughly five years at ever increasing figures and still the owner doesn't sell despite several worthy attempts. I have not read the Octane article yet, but that estimate does sound somewhat high for #064, however, not tremendously so - maybe 20% at most. There don't seem to be other F1s on the market right now which could further the justification, and asking prices are just that as we all know. If someone wants one bad enough, they'll pay it.

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Re: Estimates of current market values.

I had a chart/graph going a while ago but it hasn't been updated in a while due to the lack of accurate info on sales
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Re: Estimates of current market values.

The Guernsey car - #064 - was insured for £4m for the article. Insurers always play safe and insure for more than the cars worth. I'd say £3m+ for it

It seems #029 doesn't want to be sold, hence the high price; for an investment buyer to pay that for it they would have to hold on to it for a while [2+years IMO] to get any return. It would set a new benchmark for F1 prices however, the jump from what they are now to what is being asked may be too big a jump in the current market. Perhaps more sales of other F1's in between the current market price stepped to the current asking price of #029 may help but that may be a while coming, as like Erik states, there aren't that many being bandied around for sale at the moment.

However, If an owner is in a generous mood, I'd certainly take one off their hands for an agreeable [to me ] price; I'd even settle for a ride in one
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Re: Estimates of current market values.

To gauge prices better, can someone factor in inflation on the original purchase price twenty years ago till now. This will give a better idea on any fianancial gain on the F1,s value over that period of time. Cheapest F1 sale that I know off was 27R, it sold for around £250,000 at a Goodwood auction long time ago.
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Re: Estimates of current market values.

Hi,

I agree with Erik, difficult to do a price chart. We can say GTR short tail are more expensive than long tail. Prices are high and can grow up but I think they need to be solid.
I add a question : for me, #01R is the most valuable F1, you agree ?

If you are aware of a road car for sale, please tell me, thanks.

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Re: Estimates of current market values.

McLaren have #064 for sale now. Inquire directly if interested but it shouldn't last long.

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Hi,

I agree with Erik, difficult to do a price chart. We can say GTR short tail are more expensive than long tail. Prices are high and can grow up but I think they need to be solid.
I add a question : for me, #01R is the most valuable F1, you agree ?

If you are aware of a road car for sale, please tell me, thanks.

Martin : Waouh, I didn't know that ! Incredible !
I was just a little bit out on the hammer price of 27R

http://www.motorbase.com/auctionlot/by-id/132380692/

I would also agree that #01R is the most valueable, by a large margin over all others, doubt if McLaren would ever sell it, thats why Brunei have a replica. McLaren have been offered very large amounts for 01R, but still refuse to sell.
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Re: Estimates of current market values.

Which amount Martin

The biggest proposed amount for any F1 I was aware is 10M$
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Rumours of £30m (?)
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Which derivative of F1 was this for?
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Re: Estimates of current market values.

I would suspect XPLM would probably be second in value ranking.
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So was that a rumoured offer?
It has never been sold... right?
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