96 Celica Engine pull for replacement.

[BillyDCJ]

I got everything ready Im pulling the engine and transaxle together and now the transaxle is hanging up on the back brace on the frame on the drivers side of the car the Haynes auto repair manual said it would pull right out ive followed every step and it will not come out any suggestions Thanks

[Moppie]

Have you lifted and tilted it far enough?

[BillyDCJ]

Ok i got the engine out the floor jack under the transaxle was not letting it tilt far enough.

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by BillyDCJ

Ok i got the engine out the floor jack under the transaxle was not letting it tilt far enough.

There you go


What's the purpose of pulling it out.
Rebuild, or re-engine?

[BillyDCJ]

The old engine was knocking and the rod is bad.

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by BillyDCJ

The old engine was knocking and the rod is bad.

Any plans for anything fancy going back, or just a general rebuild?

[BillyDCJ]

I was just wanting to put in another engine will a 4SFE work mine was a 7SFE

[Moppie]

You mean a 7A-FE?

[BillyDCJ]

yes oops 7AFE

[Moppie]

Ahhhhh, could be a problem then.

The 3S and 7A use a different block. (Toyota engines are identified by the letter after number).

This means it won't be a bolt in swap.
The engine mounts, gearbox, ECU and wiring loom will be different.
You might also find the subframe and chassis mount points are also different, along with the axles, and even the radiator could be different.

Quite simply it's not a bolt in swap.

You need to put another A series engine there, and that best way to make sure it's a bolt in is to get another 7A-FE from a Celica.

[BillyDCJ]

Oh the other engine is a 4A-SE almost identical except for 1.8 litre and the 4SFE is a 1.6 litre.

[BillyDCJ]

4A-FE gosh.

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by BillyDCJ

4A-FE gosh.

Ahhh!


Should be fine then

Both use exactly the same block, just have a different bore and stroke.
Pretty sure they both have exactly the same head.

You may want to check all the engine sensors are the same, and have the same connections.

And you may want to use a 4A-FE ECU.

That said, it's going to go from a slow car, to a really slow car!


Can't you find another 7a?

[BillyDCJ]

Honestly the guy i bought the motor from told me it was an 7AFE 1.8 litre but Im learning alot and I called him back this evening and told him it was a 4AFE 1.6 he said he probably had it labeled wrong and to call him back tomorrow evening,I think my old engine could be fixed with a rod and a Crankshaft kit from NAPA it was running great just knocking.

[Moppie]

Originally Posted by BillyDCJ

Honestly the guy i bought the motor from told me it was an 7AFE 1.8 litre but Im learning alot and I called him back this evening and told him it was a 4AFE 1.6 he said he probably had it labeled wrong and to call him back tomorrow evening,I think my old engine could be fixed with a rod and a Crankshaft kit from NAPA it was running great just knocking.

A used engine will sometimes be cheaper, but is an unknown quantity.
It could be in worse condition than your old engine.

The engine code will be stamped on the block. You may need to clean some grime off it to find it.


How do you know your old engine has thrown a rod?
Have you torn it down?

If so then your half there to a rebuild, but you need to check a lot of things along the way, and make sure you replace as many parts as you can.