Revell DTM cars are available

[agamo]

I feel these models are becoming very popular, hopefully we will see better things in the next months.

And coming back to one of the first questions of this post, for the Schieder car, what would be your way to go for the paint finish? Considering the way the decals are designed, they have several clear sections which would cause silvering when applied over a flat finish, I have seen the flat finishes on these cars and from my appreciation they are flat not satin or semi-gloss.

My first though was to apply the decals over a gloss finish to avoid silvering and then cover everything with a flat transparent coat but then the decals will result also with a flat finish, which in terms of accuracy is not correct, because in every picture I have seen, the decals on the real car have a semi-glossy plastified finish contrasting against the flat finish of the body.

Or I can cut out the transparent film of every decal... LOL

What would be your approach?

[racer93]

Use semi-gloss black, decal, then SG top coat. Polish as usual.

[drunken monkey]

Originally Posted by racer93

Use semi-gloss black, decal, then SG top coat. Polish as usual.

i) why would you polish a semi-gloss top coat?
ii) how would a polished semi-gloss top coat replicate a flat/matt finish?

Originally Posted by agamo

What would be your approach?

if it's the clear decal parts silvering over flat/matt that is going to be the issue, then the only real way around it is as you suggest; to cut out every clear section...
an alternative is to decal as intended then attempt to mask off and spray the matt sections but that is an equally big and risky job.

edit:
just had a better look at the car in question.
i'd be tempted to spray the car flat/matt, then use the decals to make negative masking guides to spray down some regular gloss clear on top of which you apply the decal.
It may end up a bit thick in appearance but at least the decal would adhere properly without silvering.

[MidMazar]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

i) why would you polish a semi-gloss top coat?
ii) how would a polished semi-gloss top coat replicate a flat/matt finish?




if it's the clear decal parts silvering over flat/matt that is going to be the issue, then the only real way around it is as you suggest; to cut out every clear section...
an alternative is to decal as intended then attempt to mask off and spray the matt sections but that is an equally big and risky job.

edit:
just had a better look at the car in question.
i'd be tempted to spray the car flat/matt, then use the decals to make negative masking guides to spray down some regular gloss clear on top of which you apply the decal.
It may end up a bit thick in appearance but at least the decal would adhere properly without silvering.

I think when i plan on building mine im going to paint it normal ts black, semiclear gloss and finally decals with no top coat. But i think im going to build the kristensen car first, i like the livery the most.

[turbothirtytwo]

I have this kit about two months now and I started it. I cant say revell moved somewhere higher. incorrect front headlights, body twisted in my case, 3 tyres wider one slim. body full of sinkmarks(other parts too) bonnet wont fit with front bumper or doors so u heve to glue it or leave removed, toyish suspension....I like interrior. there are nice details.also chassis comparing to tamiya super GT cars looks more nicer. those faults are not so bad but it wont make your building happy

[MidMazar]

Originally Posted by turbothirtytwo

I have this kit about two months now and I started it. I cant say revell moved somewhere higher. incorrect front headlights, body twisted in my case, 3 tyres wider one slim. body full of sinkmarks(other parts too) bonnet wont fit with front bumper or doors so u heve to glue it or leave removed, toyish suspension....I like interrior. there are nice details.also chassis comparing to tamiya super GT cars looks more nicer. those faults are not so bad but it wont make your building happy

Thanks for letting us know. I didn't excpect any more out of them. As long as they bring new dtms im all for them even if they are horrible kits. Im sure any decent modeler who takes their time on them will make them look awesome!!

[racer93]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

i) why would you polish a semi-gloss top coat?
ii) how would a polished semi-gloss top coat replicate a flat/matt finish?

I just did this with the rear frame on my YZR 500 MotoGP bike. It had sponsor decals on the SG black frame. Silvering is an issue with these decals, so I SG cleared them and then polished the ridges of the decals down to make it look at least somewhat more realistic. It worked for me. There is still a small amount of height for the decal left, which is necessary for true realism. Sorry, I thought it was clear (no pun intended) why you'd want to polish decals. In the end, it's all about preventing silvering and getting some more realism.

I'd do the same thing for the body decals. Again, trim the excess film, clear and polish. (Now, I don't polish the whole thing, just the decals. I then clear over the polished decal/surrounding area.)

Daniel

[star21]

Originally Posted by blubaja

Any decal sets for either cars yet? All I found was deutsche post from shunko:/
http://www.hlj.com/product/SHKD119

I've been working on that Deutsche Post version. IMO, I kind of like the color and livery scheme. I'm not the biggest fan of Coulthard, but oh well...

I'd love to see the older Original Teile or the test version, though, albeit with modifications.
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic/3...z-C-DTM_6.html
http://www.seriouswheels.com/2007/20...t-1024x768.htm

[jano11]

Originally Posted by star21

I've been working on that Deutsche Post version. IMO, I kind of like the color and livery scheme. I'm not the biggest fan of Coulthard, but oh well...

I'd love to see the older Original Teile or the test version, though, albeit with modifications.
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic/3...z-C-DTM_6.html
http://www.seriouswheels.com/2007/20...t-1024x768.htm

Thanks ! Both look great.
The test version is tempting me a bit more.

[gasdriverca]

Originally Posted by blubaja

Any decal sets for either cars yet? All I found was deutsche post from shunko:/
http://www.hlj.com/product/SHKD119

Patto's Place (http://members.optusnet.com.au/pattosplace/home.html) is a site out of Australia & he does DTM decals for the 2009 cars.I'm looking at the Red Bull cars from Ekstrom & Tomcyk & also Stoddart & DiResta from Mercedes.
I've never tried them yet & dont know the quality is for them but willing to try,I havent bought yet because i'm waiting until after the Xmas post rush then I'll give them a try!