buy a car from your own country, help a lot the economy.

[porsche777]

I m from west Europe.
We have also car producers their.
Theu hire quite a lot of people. It's important for our economy.

Buying a house and buying a car, two of our bigest purchase.

In Europe we buy mainly cars from our countries.
We help our brands.

We critizise people who buy cars from others countries.
Especialy those who buy cars from countries that are not so friendly with our country.

If someone make a party in the summer in his house, and one guest has a car from a far country, and this country sale too many of his products by us,
Then this person will not accept this guest.
Get out, you kill our economy.
Our cars are quite as good as the one of this far country cars.

I have lot of respect for America. I just would like to deliver a little message, like a friend advice, You buy too many foreigners cars. It's obvious.
And a lot from countries who are not economically friendly with you.
Countries agressive, who want to sell their products to you, and buy nothing in return.
You know dumping.

[MagicRat]

While I agree with the sentiments, this is not a particularly helpful trend.

For decades, Fiat has produced absolutely terrrible cars (although they seem better now). Why? Because their home market, Italy, was heavily protected. Foreign makers faced tarrifs, and import limits, making their cars more expensive and rare than Fiats. Fiat got lazy and complacent. Their cars sold well at home because their government kept out any meainingful competition. So they could make money building unreliable junk.

The decline of the US auto industry over the past 30 years has been complicated. But one main reason was the US and Canadian domestic makers relied too heavily on loyal buyers, instead of making truly competitive products. They are paying the price for their complacency now.

The US and Canada are very open, free auto markets. Many European makes have shown they cannot compete in this market, including Fiat, Renault, Peugeot, Citroen, and almost everything from the UK.

These makers rely in part on domestic, protected markets, or have failed entirely.

The US and Canadian markets foster the best makers to prosper. Several European makers now make excellent products that you and your friends enjoy, in part because of their ability to exploit the free US marketplace.

[porsche777]

It's not really what i meant. I mean in Australia, America and England also, you buy so many Japanese an Korean cars.
So much of your money go to this countries.
What do they buy to you in return ?

yes i agree, having too many loyal buyers in a country makes the car makers lazzy.
And even they overcharged the loyal buyers.
It's vey funny in Europe. All of them use this trick.
A wolkswagen car in Germany cost 25 percent more than in another european country.The same golf cost 25 less in Italy.
A Renaunlt in france cost 25 percent more than in another european country.
Auto makers highjack the old loyal customers.

It's funny because a German must buy it's wolkswagen in Portugal now, if he want to pay the normal price.
Or a French must buy it's renault in spain.

Car makers don't play it fair also. That's makes room for the Japanese.

I use to wot in car engineering office then i know things.
what you say is paretly true, but i must add things.
Since centuries, German products are the best.
French products are soso not as good as German products. They are not as good worker as german.
Italy products are less than soso, less good as French products.
But still far better than Indians or chinese products.

But their is something else more important. When you buy a car, you know that it will break down soon or later. you will have to repair it a few times.
An Italian buy a Fiat, even if it's break down every 30000 kilometers, because repairing it cost nothing.
Millions of spare parts that cost a few bucks in his car dealer or in the crapyyard.

A French will buy a renault because repairing it cost nothing.

And after 5 years, if he wants to sell it, that will be easy.
It's easy to sell a car brand from your own country at a good price.
A used foreigner brand, if it's break down, it's expensive to repair. Nobody will buy it.

Often that's the point.

The thing is than Italian carsmaker or French car makers don't really deserve their title car maker.
They have an easy live. They invent nothing. 80 percent of a french car or 80 percent of an italy car is made with german technology.
Everything is german made or invented when it's about car or industry in europe.
The robots are german, the machinery are german, the plastic components or machinery are german, the inventions are gemrman.
engine, diesel engine, injection, direct enjection all of them german.
French and italiand are close to this country, they buy the patents or the spare parts or the machineries and just assemble them.
because of that french cars and italians cars upgreat technology very easily.
Because they are close to germany. 5 ours and the machine you order from germany in in your plant.
In USA you are geographicaly far from this german switzerland sweedish knowhow.
Italy french just assembl it every day. You can't.

In USA you have another problem. You cars are strong and good quality, and the most important they have a good animal design. European cars design don't dare so much.
but your cars are not enough technology upgreated compare to europe for one reason.
The oil price.
You didn't have to worry until now, oil was cheap by you, so cars makers didn't have to built leight cars and oil efficient cars.
In europe they import every drop of oil. Oil is so expensive since the 80's
Then the cars makers had an headach, they had to improve the cars they had to make them oil efficient.
It was a situation like in a war time. we must use less oil. we must invent better engines if we want to sell our cars.
You didn't have to face this challenge in USA.

And because of this oil price issue since 30 years europe people buy small cars.
because of this oil price situation our cars are diffrent than yours.
You want big and strong cars. Europe built little cars and oil efficient.
that doesn't match with your market.

When our car makers devellop a little car, they put a lot of money for develloping a little cars , it will be a good product, because it's a large market.
They produce also large cars but don't put so much money in it's devellopment because few people buy them.
And we don't drive so much as you do. If we must to go to another country in europe, we take the train. Cars are only for short ditance driving by us.
You you go from one state to another with your car. Not the same.