Alclad II vs. Kosutte Gin San...bye, bye Alclad!

[Murray Kish]

Does anyone know if this is any different than the SNJ buffing powders?

[BVC500]

Originally Posted by tonioseven

I have some that I ordered about six years ago from HLJ. If you don't get the basecoat just right, it can appear too dark but it' a great product.
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Can you explain a little further? I had a smooth, gloss black enamel base on some wheels and the finish still appeared too dark after rubbing out.

[Some_Kid]

I am absolutely desperate for this stuff so if anyone can find a place to buy it please let me know.

[Porsnatic]

They both are applied in the same way, but, SJN was designed to be applied over metallic paints like silver and the Kossute over gloss black paint base.

Originally Posted by Murray Kish

Does anyone know if this is any different than the SNJ buffing powders?

[MidMazar]

If anyone does find it anywhere please share with us. I want to get some myself. Results look convincing.

[tonioseven]

[quote=BVC500;6119916]Can you explain a little further? I had a smooth, gloss black enamel base on some wheels and the finish still appeared too dark after rubbing out.[/QU It sounds like we had the same results; I'm one of the people that can't apply Alclad properly and apparently I need to practice with this stuff as well. The items I used were on a '58 Impala I built last year. The finish was decent but it didn't look as good as those spoons did.
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[willimo]

That stuff looks great! I like that you can do "black" chrome with it too (or, I guess, will be doing it until you master it) because that's an effect I've been wanting to do for a while but couldn't figure out a convincing way. If anyone does find it, please let us know!

Thanks for the video link, too, that explained it really well. It's interesting how much a better understanding you get when you see it, even if you read a good description. Those modeling videos are great - I wish they were translated! I'm really curious about the painting effects he did later, around 8m; why was he holding his finger over his airbrush's tip and spraying bubbles into the cup??

[CrateCruncher]

One thing I don't like about Alclad chrome is that its not the same reflectivity at all angles. It looks great at wide angles to the light source then darkens as your eye moves in-line with the light.

In the spoon photos the Alclad II looks more reflective (though not as smooth) than the Gin San which worries me a bit. Notice the light source is always in the same location in all the photo's. I have a habit when photographing chrome. I subconsciously move around until I get maximum reflectivity. I bet if new pics are taken at a narrower angle relative to the light source the Gin San will look much darker than the AlClad.

[KevHw]

Originally Posted by willimo

Those modeling videos are great - I wish they were translated! I'm really curious about the painting effects he did later, around 8m; why was he holding his finger over his airbrush's tip and spraying bubbles into the cup??

I believe after adding thinner to the paint, spraying bubbles mixes them in the cup, a technique I picked up from the videos I use frequently. Saves time and means I don't need to waste paint or wash up any external mixing cups.

[Luis Pacheco]

Originally Posted by Some_Kid

I am absolutely desperate for this stuff so if anyone can find a place to buy it please let me know.

http://www.hwjapan.com/index.aspx

http://www.hawkeyeshobbies.com/catalog/powders.htm

[MidMazar]

Originally Posted by Luis Pacheco

http://www.hwjapan.com/index.aspx

http://www.hawkeyeshobbies.com/catalog/powders.htm

Neither one has them. We are looking for Kosutte Gin San product.

[Luis Pacheco]

Originally Posted by MidMazar

Neither one has them. We are looking for Kosutte Gin San product.

The member Some_kid ask if someone knew where to buy the two stuffs (Kosutte and Hawkey powder).

And I say again:

http://www.hwjapan.com/sh/seeke.aspx?seek_code=WOR2513

[star21]

Originally Posted by Luis Pacheco

The member Some_kid ask if someone knew where to buy the two stuffs (Kosutte and Hawkey powder).

And I say again:

http://www.hwjapan.com/sh/seeke.aspx?seek_code=WOR2513

I wonder how long they've been out of stock with it. Usually HW doesn't really keep many items in stock anyway.

Anyone know any additional sources or at least similar products?

[Luis Pacheco]

Originally Posted by star21

I wonder how long they've been out of stock with it. Usually HW doesn't really keep many items in stock anyway.

Anyone know any additional sources or at least similar products?

Yesterday there were two in stock. I can assure that one is on the way direct to my address.

[BVC500]

Originally Posted by CrateCruncher

One thing I don't like about Alclad chrome is that its not the same reflectivity at all angles. It looks great at wide angles to the light source then darkens as your eye moves in-line with the light.

In the spoon photos the Alclad II looks more reflective (though not as smooth) than the Gin San which worries me a bit. Notice the light source is always in the same location in all the photo's. I have a habit when photographing chrome. I subconsciously move around until I get maximum reflectivity. I bet if new pics are taken at a narrower angle relative to the light source the Gin San will look much darker than the AlClad.

I think you've hit the issue spot on!