Brake pedal fade

[js63]

05 Town and Country. Replaced front and rear brakes and master cyl. Brake pedal fades at a stop, pedal goes to floor. Was doing this before these parts were replaced. Vehicle does not have ABS. Any help would be great.

[manlystanley]

Originally Posted by js63

05 Town and Country. Replaced front and rear brakes and master cyl. Brake pedal fades at a stop, pedal goes to floor. Was doing this before these parts were replaced. Vehicle does not have ABS. Any help would be great.

When you say replaced front/rear brakes, does that include the calipers/ wheel cylinders? Do you have any traces of brake fluid leaking out? How did you bleed the brakes; using the push brake pedal technique, our use a hand held tool?

[js63]

Replaced shoes and pads and master cyl. No visible leaks were found. Bench bled master cyl. before installing on vehicle and then bled on vehicle at master cyl. Problem was there before I ever touched vehicle

[manlystanley]

I think that you should bleed the entire system. You can press the brakes and then loosen up the bleed screws at the wheel cylinder/caliper. I have had problems in the past getting a good bleed, so jacking up the rear end and letting it sit for a while (letting an air bubble raise up) seemed to help.

I've seen hand-held bleed tools in the auto parts store and have thought of buying one. My vans have always been hard to bleed just using the pump brake petal approach.

You might want to flush the brake fluid at this time. I do on my cars/trucks every 5-7 years. A 2005 is a bit early, but then again you've got everything opened up...

Best regards,
Stan