Tamiya Peugeot 206 WRC 1999

[ChillyB]

Well, I guess it is time to call this one finished. The kit is Tamiya and the paint is TS-26 Pure White with some TS-13 clear. I used the Scale Motorsport photoetch set and some carbon fiber decals also from SMS. There's some cigarette foil here and there for heat shield material. I made the antennas from guitar string and some 32 gauge wire (for the spring base) and added valve stems to the wheels. Weathering is mostly Tamiya acrylics in a variety of dirt and mud colors airbrushed with a fan blowing to help carry the paint in a wind-tunnel sort of way. I made some caked-on mud in the wheel wells using Tamiya basic putty that I roughed up with a wire brush, painted with very thin mud colored paint, then airbrushed. That might be all.

I feel it is necessary to announce that I'm not here trying to replicate this particular vehicle in any conditions under which it may have raced or even existed, nor am I attempting to duplicate precisely the actual car in miniature. There are those on some modeling forums who simply cannot comprehend the we modelers are allowed to express some artistic license when building. That said, my goal is to present something that is a fairly realistic scale model and that is well-executed from the perspective of deploying the full range of modelers' skills.

But as a sop to the rigid purists I offer the following: I know that this particular race was mostly in dry weather on asphalt; however, I have seen some footage that shows at least one stage of the race was in wet and muddy conditions. So let us say this is the car after that particular stage, okay?

Any and all comments, suggestions, criticisms, and purchase offers welcomed.

More can be seen here:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...%20206%201999/

[ravan17]

whether it resembles a real-life car, after a real-life race should not be a concern unless that is the look a modeler is going for.

with that said, this car is simply AMAZING. i love the mud effects, simply love them. they look more then realistic.

the only thing i can say it MIGHTT be able to use, if you are going for the wet muddy look, is a bit more dirt on the rims and maybe some in the tires just to flow with all the dirt you have on the side, but thats not even necessary as it already looks perfect, and that might even take away from the look it has now, but anyways, just an idea

i think if you set this up in some dirt outside, i would NEVER be able to tell it apart from a real car if i was going trhough a set of rally pics.


good job man, looking forward to your future builds

[rallymaster]

Originally Posted by ChillyB

...There are those on some modeling forums who simply cannot comprehend the we modelers are allowed to express some artistic license when building...

No more than YOU can't understand or/nor accept that there are some modelers (the same ? ) who expect to find a racing model to be built accurate and realistic as soon as builder hasn't express another choice simply because it's what it has to be by representing a precise car, except of course when builder pretends (with so much modesty) to express his great craftmanship talent (moreover for a "well executed model" - understand we all other ones must build shit) building another way and only expect/accept flattering comments regarding his skills...!!
(which ones aren't supposed to be lacking, nobody especially among those stupid modelers who really can't understand you pretended that this was badly built or that you should leave modeling for bowling...

Originally Posted by ChillyB

...That said, my goal is to present something that is a fairly realistic scale model and that is well-executed from the p
perspective of deploying the full range of modelers' skills...

And once more, what is other builders aim so...??
what you named is exactly what modelers building accurate also do !! And probably even more when knowing what accuracy makes need to do to improve or modify a kit, and all that without ever prentending their models are well executed and talent expression !?!

Originally Posted by ChillyB

But as a sop to the rigid purists I offer the following: I know that this particular race was mostly in dry weather on asphalt; however, I have seen some footage that shows at least one stage of the race was in wet and muddy conditions. So let us say this is the car after that particular stage, okay?

don't think for purists !! they know what to think themselves !
and purists can make a difference between accuracy they look for all the time and skills and talent.
that's why I'm sure they all appreciate your model as I do myself, knowing what work was done and what time and energy as much as skills it means.

Originally Posted by ChillyB

Any and all comments, suggestions, criticisms, and purchase offers welcomed.

haahaaaaaa !! Of course, here we are !!
that's why accuracy critics aren't welcome, and why it even doesn't count, what is important, the final aim to so much modesty (skills, artistic talent, well executed blah blah blah... ) and the expected and only ones accepted flattering comments is there: finding money with it !!!
Haa that's sure that from that point of view the main problem isn't to make an unwaited choice of build for such car representation (which is accepted as far as known), and can only be all other modelers who can't and/or don't want to understand your choice and refuse to praise the skills and result.


I really hope I'm wrong and that your unaccepting reaction about some comments wasn't motivated by this final need to get only flattering comments to make ad vertisement of your build to find a buyer...
That would be a very bad philosophy...

That's why now I've said all I had and wanted to I prefer forgetting this thread and model. I really prefer all the contacts I have through this forum with people accepting crtics with modesty and discussing them to those who refuse to hear things which don't match their money aim.
because that's not my own philosophy. "Learn from others and teach to them at your turn when you can" better is mine.

[klutz_100]

Very nicely done

I would be more than happy to have a model come out looking that good

[rallymaster]

Originally Posted by klutz_100

Very nicely done

I would be more than happy to have a model come out looking that good

don't say that to "Jean-Paul" he will be upset !!



PS: I saw the rate of the thread... and NO I'm not the one that badly rated it if that's what made it appearing 3 stars...
because even if it's hard to believe or understand for "someone" I appreciate the work and result even if it's not what I would have firstly expected to find for such car.

[klutz_100]

Originally Posted by rallymaster

don't say that to "Jean-Paul" he will be upset !!

hehe - don't worry, he's safely packed away in a shoe box somewhere in the cellar

BTW, Your post wasn't in the thread when I started my reply. Imagine my surprise when the page refreshed!

[rallymaster]

Originally Posted by klutz_100

hehe - don't worry, he's safely packed away in a shoe box somewhere in the cellar

BTW, Your post wasn't in the thread when I started my reply. Imagine my surprise when the page refreshed!

A french shoe at least ?!

Oops I can imagine you're surprised...
I know this won't please everyone, as everyone may not please to be treatened as guilty (of what ?) when he sincerely made a justified comment only to help and serve as I try to each time I share my pictures and informations.
I don't want to criticize anyone, I only want to share what I know and have, what is the sens of such a gold mine forum.

[ChillyB]

A colleague on a different site pointed out my failure to trim the decal around the headlight. I can't believe I missed it! Anyway, rest assured I've taken care of the little problem.

[racer93]

On your next attempt at weathering, check out your own car for how mud and muck is thrown up onto the car from the tires. The way you have displayed it is not realistic.

[ChillyB]

Originally Posted by racer93

On your next attempt at weathering, check out your own car for how mud and muck is thrown up onto the car from the tires. The way you have displayed it is not realistic.

I was using a bunch of photos of dirty WRC cars as reference and so was attempting to recreate that effect. It does look different from a normal passenger car driving through some mud. In fact, the fluid dynamics of mud are extraordinarily stochastic. And an almost infinite variety of patterns of sprays, smears, and accumulations is possible.

I was going for something like this Subaru:

Rather than something like this Focus:

[ravan17]

i dont know about anyone else, but i think the weathering was done spot on, especially refrencing the subaru pic.

looks damn realistic

[lotus123]

In the June 2000 issue of Scale Auto Enthusiast, Pat Covert wrote about the time he developed an interest in model trains. He went to the hobby shop and bombarded the salesman with questions. "What kind of cars do I need? What period? Do they all need to be on the same line?" He writes that he was sure all the saleman heard was "blah, blah, blah", because after he finished his lengthy query the guy gave a simple reply. "Well, the first thing you've got to remember is ... it's your railroad!"

Seems some people on this forum forgot it's your "railroad". But then, that's where the PVR and the mouse scroll wheel have something useful in common - you can skip past stuff that has no value.

Having said that, I think it's a very well executed model that shows you've given careful thought to what you want it to say.

[ChillyB]

Thanks for your interest, everybody. These are really nice kits and I highly recommend them to anyone who's thinking of building a rally car. I have a couple more and hope to improve my builds with each one. And maybe I'll do a clean version, who knows?