Illegal Aliens Caught on Trail Cams

[deadzone]

Interesting videos taken by cameras hidden on the Arizona border.

http://www.borderinvasionpics.com

[Gohan Ryu]

Here's another reason why illegals should be shot and buried in the desert:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...izona-rancher/

[VR43000GT]

The funny things is, since I worked landscaping I have had the opportunity to work with countless illegals and they told me how they make it across. They described how they stole various things from ranchers in order to make it through the harsh climate...even said they had to drink from a horse water tank for water on a guy's ranch. I guess it wouldn't be illegal to put foot traps all over your property would it?

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Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

Here's another reason why illegals should be shot and buried in the desert:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...izona-rancher/

He won that case.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=89295

They got a ruling for "emotional damages", but it's in appeal now.

I agree, though; if he had shot them all and buried them in a far corner of his ranch, no one would know the difference. However, these people are human beings, even if they are breaking the law.

We stopped in Jamestown, NY on Friday and had dinner in a mexican restaurant. The owner was white, a US citizen, but the kitchen help and wait staff were all hispanic. The food was as authentic as any I've had in Mexico.

Were they all illegals? Well, "hablas Ingles" definitely wasn't a high priority, so that might have been a clue. They were doing their jobs OK, but they all looked like scared rabbits to me. I'm a pretty stern looking guy even under ideal circumstances, so they could have been afraid I was ICE since I was checking all of them out pretty closely.

I have mixed feelings about all of this. Part of me is hard core and says shoot them all and let God sort them out, but the other part feels some sympathy for people who are risking their lives to come here to be safe and have a better life. I know we'll all have opinions across the spectrum on this one.

Maybe the bigger issue is immigration reform, but how do we propose to screen, classify, and track over 13 million and counting, and how do we get business owners to do the right thing and comply with the law when they can save a lot of money by doing it under the table?

Plus, do we have an obligation to refuse to patronize these establishments, or even call ICE and have them pay a visit to them?

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

Here's another reason why illegals should be shot and buried in the desert:

A lil bit harsh don't you think? Even though I don't agree with coming here illegally, I'd still feed them and give them clean water. They don't deserve to suffer.

[Gohan Ryu]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

A lil bit harsh don't you think? Even though I don't agree with coming here illegally, I'd still feed them and give them clean water. They don't deserve to suffer.

It's not too harsh if you live in a city near the Mexican border. You'll give food and water to the first few thousand illegals that you catch stealing from you, but when thousands more follow and they continue to steal from you and destroy your property, and it continues to happen over a period of several decades and the government won't (or can't) do anything about it - you'll start to realize that humanity is wasted on these parasites and shooting them and burying them in the desert becomes a good option. Especially when you consider that when most of them can't find the American jobs they believed are in abundance, they turn to crime.

No, they don't deserve to suffer for their crimes, and they don't deserve to suffer just because they were born in f*cked up Mexico. Just kill them quick and be done with it.

[thegladhatter]

If it happened more often....fewer would come. If this place aint comfortable for them, maybe they will just stay put.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

It's not too harsh if you live in a city near the Mexican border.

I do. I now live in Sahaurita,AZ. It's just outside of Tucson.

Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

No, they don't deserve to suffer for their crimes, and they don't deserve to suffer just because they were born in f*cked up Mexico. Just kill them quick and be done with it.

The way how I was brought up is that we show mercy to anyone, even to our enemies. However, I cannot control what they do. If I help them, it could change there hearts and maybe will not steal from me. Or maybe they will but that doesn't mean I shouldn't help them. Maybe they're not as civilized as most people, so they may need direction. They steal because they're desperate and there mentality is that they think or know that no one will help them. They do it because they're afraid to get deported back to Mexico. You're not doing America a favor with your suggestion. You're making yourself look barbaric.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by bagwanshrirashnish

If it happened more often....fewer would come. If this place aint comfortable for them, maybe they will just stay put.

No that will not stop them. If you know how bad Mexico is, they're willing to do anything to come to US. They do recognize the consequences of doing so.

[Gohan Ryu]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

They steal because they're desperate and there mentality is that they think or know that no one will help them. They do it because they're afraid to get deported back to Mexico. You're not doing America a favor with your suggestion. You're making yourself look barbaric

I know I sound barbaric, it's the best way to deal with barbarians.

I have a different opinion about what their mentality is. Their mentality is "no one else matters but me" and "if I commit a serious crime here I can go back to Mexico and get immunity" and "it doesn't matter if what I do harms others if it serves my own purpose". I doubt that they even consider how their actions will affect others.

Originally Posted by mellowboy

If I help them, it could change there hearts and maybe will not steal from me. Or maybe they will but that doesn't mean I shouldn't help them.

Yeah, me too But then I'll call INS and turn them in. If you thought I really meant it when I said shoot them and bury them...all I can say is don't take everything you read so literally.

I have no delusions about "changing their hearts", however. They will accept your charity with one hand and steal your wallet with the other, then they'll get drunk and rape your daughter. They take, then they take some more, and if you stop giving to them they'll steal, lie, and cheat to get what they want. I've worked for federal assistance programs and have seen the elaborate lengths these people go to to commit welfare fraud, credit card fraud, identity theft...stealing from the people whose taxes are paying their free meal ticket.

If they would come to this country and at least attempt to make new lives for themselves I would be more than happy to welcome them. But instead they come here and try to turn America into Mexico. They turn good neighborhoods into crime ridden barrios and they live the same way they did in Tijuana. There are many government assisted education programs available to them but they're not here to learn. I've visited a few of those ESL classes and they are pitifully empty considering the millions of illegals that are here. It's much easier and more likely for them to steal a car stereo than to get an education to become employable. They don't even bother to learn our language.

And in reality, despite my barbaric nature, I don't condone killing people. I'm not angry as my post suggests. In fact I find it hilarious that those illegals sued for $32 million. MALDEF truly does have their heads shoved up their rectums.

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Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

In fact I find it hilarious that those illegals sued for $32 million. MALDEF truly does have their heads shoved up their rectums.

Agreed. They spent enough on legal fees alone and got slapped in the process. Sadly, it's only a matter of time before the courts will side with the illegals. He has to deal with a steady flow of border jumpers across his land and they trash it pretty well.

And the feds don't seem to mind at all...

In fact, they will intervene if you try to take care of it yourself. Look at Hazleton, PA. This link gives a little info. http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/002992.html That problem has been brewing for a while.

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archi..._hazleton.html Look through his archives to see some of the issues.

We have family friends in Hazleton, who are administrators in the school district there. It's pretty bad. The illegals have crapped all over that town and stretched resources beyond their limits in some areas.

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

No that will not stop them. If you know how bad Mexico is, they're willing to do anything to come to US. They do recognize the consequences of doing so.

They only come here because the bleeding hearts make it possible for them. If it was unpleasant to come here...ie they got their asses handed to them, they would stop. When Mexico looks safer, and less painful, they will stay in their own damn back yards and cut their own damn grass.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

Yeah, me too But then I'll call INS and turn them in. If you thought I really meant it when I said shoot them and bury them...all I can say is don't take everything you read so literally.

I'm not. I know that you're only expressing but still the comment was uncomfortable.

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

I'm not. I know that you're only expressing but still the comment was uncomfortable.

Uncomfortable?!? So freaking what? I don't want the people sneaking into my country illegally to BE AT ALL COMFORTABLE! Screw them!

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Originally Posted by mellowboy

I know that you're only expressing but still the comment was uncomfortable.

Gohan, look what you did. You need to get in touch with your sensitive side, ya ill-mannered lout.