It is better in Iraq....regardless....

[thegladhatter]

Iraqi says he threw shoes at Bush to restore pride


Feb 19 01:48 PM US/Eastern
By SINAN SALAHEDDIN
Associated Press Writer


BAGHDAD (AP) - The Iraqi journalist who threw his shoes at George W. Bush did not apologize as his trial began Thursday, and instead struck a defiant tone—telling the judges he wanted to hit back at the humiliation Iraq had suffered at U.S. hands.
It was Muntadhar al-Zeidi's first public appearance since he was arrested in mid-December for hurling shoes at Bush during a joint news conference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki. The act turned the obscure 30-year-old reporter into a cult hero throughout much of the Middle East.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
I wonder how well this idiot would have fared if he threw his shoe at Sadaam or Obama Bin Laden.

[BNaylor]

This reminds me of one of the lines in the movie Full Metal Jacket where the Marine Colonel explained that we were in 'Nam for their or our freedom and in every Vietnamese there is an American inside them just waiting to come out.

These people don't know what freedom or democracy is or could care less. "Dumb bastards". We should have let the country rot under Saddam Hussein and not wasted a single drop of American blood on them.

[03cavPA]

At the time, I thought the same thing.

If that sorry looney tunes was such a threat, we should have let his neighbors deal with him, or let Europe worry about it. They're much closer and far easier for him to mess with.

Toss a couple of shoes. Yeah, that really upsets me. SIMPLE dumb bastards is more like it. They'll still be killing each other long after we're all dead and buried.

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

These people don't know what freedom or democracy

And they don't care about democracy and they don't need it.

[HotZ28]

They were killing each other hundreds of years ago for the same religious differences. You can not force democracy on those who could care less about it. We could rebuild everything that was destroyed & give them 10-trillion dollars and the will go back to a dictatorship! Once a camel jock, always a camel jock!

[03cavPA]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

And they don't care about democracy and they don't need it.

Yep, that's what Bob said. At least quote him properly

Originally Posted by BNaylor

These people don't know what freedom or democracy is or could care less.

Powell was right. We broke it, we bought it.

[thegladhatter]

Simple fact is...If the idiot threw his shoes at Sadaam...he'd be dead already. If you think it's not better there now, you're as dumb as they are. That's all I'm saying. I'm not making any comments on forcing anything on them. They should be thankful not dumasses.

[fredjacksonsan]

Originally Posted by HotZ28

They were killing each other hundreds of years ago for the same religious differences. You can not force democracy on those who could care less about it....

More like thousands of years ago.

I agree heartily that all countries should be able to choose their own governments. But I also agree that democracy is among the better forms of government (sans the corruption of course)

Under Saddam, the press conference wouldn't even have happened in the first place so the question of what would have happened to that guy is moot.

What exactly IS his crime? He threw shoes at a foreign dignitary. I guess it could be called assault?

[BNaylor]

Assault with a stinky weapon.

I don't care what jurisdiction you live in in the U.S. That could easily be an assault charge and land you in jail with the crybabies we have in our country.

Another issue is why the U.S. Secret Service let it happen or they reacted too late.

The Iraqis are fairly progressive and modernized as are their moderate Arab neighbors. I don't recall seeing that many camels being used over there. They prefer driving the American style big cars and Mercedes for transportation.

[Carfreak18]

I just read an article recently and they were saying how the Taliban gets their ideas and laws from a tribal group called the Pashtuns and it simply says that these guys go back thousands of years following a very strict code of women containment and very strong military views, hence the Taliban, their views are just about the same. We nor will any other government be able to fully rid the Taliban, their like cockroaches, you kill 100 and 1000 come back, their a bunch of stubborn jackasses and nothing is going to change the way they think, especially a "bunch of Americans" whaddya we know right? Let them kill themselves off till theirs none left.. F*ck em!!

[mellowboy]

Originally Posted by fredjacksonsan

More like thousands of years ago.

I agree heartily that all countries should be able to choose their own governments. But I also agree that democracy is among the better forms of government (sans the corruption of course)

Democracy is not the better form of government. Where did you get that crazy idea from?

Baghdad does not need democracy. Plain and simple. They had a perfect form of government prior to the British occupation (you know, the ones who split up middle east and gave us our country names?) History folks. Read it. Who destroyed the middle east? The Mongols and then the British.

Saddam's government was never a perfect form of government nor did I ever agree with his government or any Arab countries government.

03cavPA- Who's Bob??

[rogeiro]

People make great business on this event, selling "the shoe". It iss now trendy and cool to get one. This is funny!

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by mellowboy

03cavPA- Who's Bob??

Salam alaykum Mellowboy. Sloonak? Long time no see. I'm Bob. In Arabic that means door.

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by Carfreak18

their like cockroaches, you kill 100 and 1000 come back, their a bunch of stubborn jackasses and nothing is going to change the way they think, especially a "bunch of Americans" whaddya we know right? Let them kill themselves off till theirs none left.. F*ck em!!

First of all... "THEY ARE"
Secondly... There is an urban myth that if you drop the big bomb the cock roaches will still be there. I don't care. Roaches would be an improvement.

There is a way to correct the situation over there. It just isn't politically correct. Wipe the bastards out. End of problem.

[thrasher]

Originally Posted by bagwanshrirashnish

There is a way to correct the situation over there. It just isn't politically correct. Wipe the bastards out. End of problem.

A LOT of people feel the same way about Americans...makes you look just like "them". Terrorists, that is