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#31
09-06-2002, 08:34 PM
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Please point out where I bagged other people on that wentt on with their lives?
Oh, nevermind. I get it, I think. Does it deal with the ones that do, then come back and remember it for that one day? Those days I mentioned mean more than this. Those days represent when we could be under German, Japan, or any other countries rule! We were at war, unlike now where it is "battleship", they attack, then us, then us, then us, then us, then them possible. So it's basketball, make-it-take-it. What I find hyprocitical is that the people that do get on with their lives come back and act like they've been grieving the whole time. This has also affected me personally so it's caused somewhat of a grudge and I'm somewhat defensive due to a very bad week. I like opinions though ci5ic! Thanks!
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#32
09-06-2002, 11:22 PM
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 The last time i saw the number was last september, i thought i remembered seeing 5000 dead/missing I know for sure that they all said it was far worse than pearl harbor, especially since it was all innocent people.
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#33
09-06-2002, 11:35 PM
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I thought it was more too Moss? Weird?
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#34
09-07-2002, 02:40 AM
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My Stars and Stripes is still flying from my patio roof! I'll watch the ceremonies and feel a loss for all the families involved, just like the Oklahoma bombing and other attacks around the world. Killing in the name of their Lord, what a bunch of bullshit!
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#36
09-07-2002, 08:17 AM
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Thankfully, as time goes on, the death toll keeps dropping. They now believe that there are a shade over 2,800 victims for the World Trade Center attack (and I'm pretty sure that includes the passengers and crew from both flights, as well as all the NYC Firefighters and Police who died). Combine this with the 189 (that's the most recent figure I've seen) people who died in the Pentagon attack, and the.. I think 45 people who died in the plane that crashed in Pennsylvania. There's around 3,050 people all together.
The reason for the difficulty in establishing the final death toll comes from people being listed more than once in employee directories in the WTC and things like that. For example, a female employee gets married, take on her husband's last name, and now has two listings in the directory. The officials continue to find "glitches" like these and weed them out, and as they do so, they are finding that fewer and fewer people were indeed killed. Kind of.. well, pretty fortunate, in one sense. I think the WTC has the ability to house 50,000 people. Pretty lucky that we squeaked by losing only 2,800. You may remember that on September 11th, initially over 10,000 were feared dead.
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#37
09-07-2002, 11:13 PM
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The flag in the rear window of my car hasn't left since last September. I have dissed some of the politics of our country since last September 11 (and I, too, hate when people call it nine-one-one). But one thing I don't lose track of is what country I have grown up in, and how I have been given freedoms just because I am. How many people in the world can say that?
I will be hanging flags out of my dorm windows, and on my dorm door for 9/11 to show my appreciation for everything we have fought for and won. Pearl Harbor is somewhat beyond most of us due to age, but this (Sept. 11th) attack on civilians versus an attack on a military base is something no one ever expected. I sure as hell never did, but that constant fear in my head that the U.S. would lose power before I am gone has somewhat come back from the depths of my mind. But as for me, "I pledge alliegence to the flag of the United States of America; and to the Republic on which it stands; One nation, UNDER GOD, indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
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#38
09-07-2002, 11:27 PM
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Alright, I'm not saying they are exact, but we are similar to the Empire. we both are a Republic, both had many different races in our state, and we both spread our influence amongst others. I don't know, just something I though I should state.
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#39
09-11-2002, 10:03 PM
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It has been a good day of remembrance, at least for me. I have felt it, gone through everything that day in my head once again, remembered those friends of mine who were thoughtful enough to call and ask me about my family, recalled the President of my company pulling me aside a couple days later to help rationalize why we were attacked, and once again felt strangely empty because I wasn't there with my parents, five miles from ground zero. I hated being some place else, hearing about everything second-hand and not being able to be there, so close to where I grew, to see what was happenening with my own eyes. And I feel this bitter feeling inside, knowing that despite all our efforts to thwart terrorist attacks in the wake of the hijackings that day, that we are still sitting ducks for most forms of additional terrorist activity.
In spite of the cynical anxiety with respect to our still vulnerable state of affairs, it has been good to freshen up the memories, to review what happened, to immerse myself in the stories on the news, and watch all that terrible footage over and over again. Time, once again, to sleep, and put the tragedies of September 11th behind me. 
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