Obama's been to 57 states!

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by ericn1300

I think everyone from the media down, especially the media, should look at their own bloopers tape or list and let it go. I'm sure everybody reading this post has said or done something embarrassing in public at some time so don't throw stones. Obama's gaffes are not an ongoing problem like Bush's or McCain's.

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Yeah but we're not running for the highest office in the country. You are comparing apples to oranges. He should be under a magnifying glass which in this country is led by the media. I'd recommend taking off your blinders. The Democrats/Liberals are good about dishing it out but can't take the criticism as usual or quick to defend without any real basis in fact.

Not counting the 57 states and the 10,000 Kansas tornado dead gaffes, on the issue of his past gaffes and his ongoing gaffes, oh really?

Obama Gaffes on Iraq and Afghanistan
May 13, 2008 8:27 PM

ABC News' David Wright and Sunlen Miller Report: Sporting a shiny new American flag pin at an appearance in Rush Limbaugh's hometown, Sen. Barack Obama came up with some novel reasons why the U.S. may be struggling in the war in Afghanistan.

"We don't have enough capacity right now to deal with it -- and it's not just the troops," Obama, D-Ill., told a crowd in Cape Girardeau, Missouri.

Obama posited -- incorrectly -- that Arabic translators deployed in Iraq are needed in Afghanistan -- forgetting, momentarily, that Afghans don't speak Arabic.

"We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq, then its harder for us to use them in Afghanistan," Obama said.

The vast majority of military translators in both war zones are drawn from the local population.
Naturally they speak the local language. In Iraq, that's Arabic or Kurdish. In Afghanistan, it's any of a half dozen other languages -- including Pashtu, Dari, and Farsi.

No sooner did Obama realize his mistake -- and correct himself -- but he immediately made another.

"We need agricultural specialists in Afghanistan, people who can help them develop other crops than heroin poppies, because the drug trade in Afghanistan is what is driving and financing these terrorist networks. So we need agricultural specialists," he said.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalra...gaffes-on.html

Obama's gaffes start to pile up

March 28, 2007
BY LYNN SWEET Sun-Times Columnist
WASHINGTON -- Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign, 46 days old on Tuesday, has run into some speed bumps, created because of a series of missteps magnified because he is under microscopic scrutiny.
It's too early to say whether the gaffes slow Obama's momentum -- or if they become barricades, extracting a more significant price for the Illinois Democrat's White House bid. They are getting noticed.

Consider the items that have been accumulating since Obama announced on Feb. 10:

• Marking the anniversary of the March 1965 "Bloody Sunday" in Selma, Ala., Obama, speaking at a church, said his parents got together "because of what happened in Selma." Obama was born in 1961.

• Obama told Larry King on CNN -- asked about that anti-Hillary Rodham Clinton YouTube ad, a doctored version of a spot created for Apple computers -- "We don't have the technical capacity to create something like that."

Obama did not know what he was talking about. Any professional media consultant can manipulate images on video. Turns out the creator -- unmasked last week as a political operative who worked for a firm overseeing the technical side of Obama's Web site -- made it at home on a Mac.

• Obama, asked if homosexuality was immoral, in the wake of comments by Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Gen. Peter Pace, sidestepped the question. After pressure from gay groups, Obama issued a statement stating he did not agree with Pace "that homosexuality is immoral."

Another Obama gaffe

Hidden deep within the transcript of the other night's Democratic debate before some 15,000 union members in Chicago's Soldier Field was yet another little-noticed and embarrassing error by Barack Obama.

His party opponents, especially frontrunner Hillary Rodham Clinton, have been on his case for the last couple of weeks, suggesting he is too naive and inexperienced to become commander in chief after a state legislative job and barely two years in the U.S. Senate. Obama in one debate said he would indeed meet with some of the world's dictators in his first year as president without preconditions as part of his "new page" diplomacy.

Then in a major foreign policy speech designed to enhance his credibility as a potential leader he suggested he might unilaterally bomb the U.S. ally and nuclear power Pakistan if that country's president was insufficently on the program about chasing Al Qaeda leaders. Then Obama ruled out the use of nuclear weapons, which Clinton suggested presidents should never do.

In the Chicago gathering before an Obama-friendly hometown crowd, the subject turned to trade in general and the North American Free Trade Agreement in particular, which bothers union members fearing job losses. Obama said upon becoming president, "I would immediately call the president of Mexico, the president of Canada, to try to amend NAFTA, because I think that we can get labor agreements in that agreement right now."

Problem is, as some Harvard graduates might know, our next-door neighbor Canada doesn't have a president. For more than 140 years now it has had a parliamentary system and ...

...the top political leader is the prime minister, who is the head of the controlling party in Parliament.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/wash...r-obama-g.html

And if I looked hard enough I could probably find a lot more. But I'm not wasting any more of my time.

[ericn1300]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

And if I looked hard enough I could probably find a lot more. But I'm not wasting any more of my time.

I'm sure you could but I liked the comment on the LA Times blog you linked to: Obama's comments on "President" of Canada, still make him look like Jonas Salk, as compared to "Archie Bush Bunker."

[BNaylor]

Originally Posted by ericn1300

I'm sure you could but I liked the comment on the LA Times blog you linked to: Obama's comments on "President" of Canada, still make him look like Jonas Salk, as compared to "Archie Bush Bunker."

Regardless he looks like a fool or a moron to me. At least they both have one thing in common both attended Ivy league colleges. .... The difference is Bush got elected to two terms. The jury is still out on Obama.

No McCain gaffes. Anyone?

[ericn1300]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

No McCain gaffes. Anyone?

Google "McCain Gaffes", lot's of them. He thinks he's going to win the war in Iraq and doesn't know a Sunni from a Shiite.

POLITICS-US: McCain's Gaffes Reflect Bush's Iran-Qaeda Myth
Analysis by Gareth Porter*

WASHINGTON, Mar 21 (IPS) - Sen. John McCain's confusion in recent allegations of Iranian training of al Qaeda fighters in Iraq is the result of a drumbeat of official propaganda about close Iran-al Qaeda ties that the George W. Bush administration and neoconservatives have promoted ever since early 2002.

McCain, the Republican nominee for the presidency, was confusing the Bush administration's charges of Iranian training of Shi'a militiamen associated with the Mahdi Army with the administration's propaganda theme of Iranian tacit or explicit support for al Qaeda operatives in Iran -- charges which have amplified by right-wing media.

During a press conference in Jordan Tuesday, McCain brought up the charge that Iran with training al Qaeda operatives and sending them to Iraq, then corrected himself after Sen. Joseph Lieberman, a Democrat from Connecticut, whispered in his ear. It was the fourth time in a little over three weeks, however, that McCain had made the same charge.

McCain's confusion has been widely characterised as demonstrating his inability to distinguish Sunni al Qaeda from Shiite Mahdi Army. But more fundamentally, McCain's gaffes were a reflection of how thoroughly he had internalised a favourite theme of the Bush administration and neoconservatives -- that Iran has tolerated and even covertly assisted al Qaeda agents operating inside Iran.
from:http://www.propeller.com/viewstory/2...693&frame=true

My post wasn't an intention to get into a pissing match, I just wanted to point out that all the presidential canidates are real people and the "higher standard" just doesn't hold true in these days of retail politics. Bush got elected because he had the name and the "smart guys" from daddy's days behind him. Google "Bush Gaffes" and you'll get two generations of them. And you can "Read My Lips" on that one

[03cavPA]

Originally Posted by ericn1300

Google "McCain Gaffes", lot's of them. He thinks he's going to win the war in Iraq and doesn't know a Sunni from a Shiite.

I guess we could say he doesn't know Jack Shiite about muslims, then.

[BNaylor]

Or maybe he knows Jack Shiite more than us. Plus don't believe everything you read. Much of the info is classified and one day may be declassified so we can see the truth which probably lies someplace in the middle. There are historical credible opposing arguments and debates that shoot the pundits' articles wide open so maybe what McCain alluded to was not a gaffe. To say unequivocally there is or has been no corroboration between the Sunni and Shiite sects or any ties to Iran is ridiculous. Going back to 2002 see link below.

Click here

Also, I know for a fact under the US Army's counter-insurgency training program Iran has given some sort of aid to the Sunnis that are presumably Ba'ath party members under Saddam's old regime or Al Queda and the Shiite Militias. There are villages in the Sunni areas and Shiite areas of Iraq co-habitated so even our ground troops cannot differentiate who the enemy is until attacked and they implement security ops. For example the so called sophisticated EFP IEDs after close examination have Iranian origin markings. The milling stamps are in Farsi. Documentation covering the use of these IEDs is in Farsi not Arabic. Someone has to train people in their use and of course Iran denies any involvement. That is to be expected. We have effected successful countermeasures against these devices. Also, the pundits do not have any relevant first hand factual knowledge of the real facts. Simply nothing but armchair quarterbacks toting the party line and hoping the sheep follow.

As service to the country I work part time with a select group of former military compromised of many that have been in Iraq for several tours of duty, prior service, retirees and national guard/reserve as the opposing forces (OPFOR). We operate under the Army's counter-insurgency program to help train our troops before they deploy to Iraq and Afghanistan. I was in Saudi Arabia for 3 years and present when Saddam invaded Kuwait and leading up to Gulf War I. Also, I speak Arabic. Many of our training scenarios cover the Iranian EFP IED to include performing a close inspection of them after they are disarmed since many do not go off or fire improperly. Also, we have scenarios where the troops have to go into these co-habitated villages.

That is my story and I am sticking to it.

[BNaylor]

Here's the latest controversial video on Obama. It was forwarded to me by a friend that has voted straight Democrat since voting age.

A Video Portrait of Barack Hussein Obama

Here is some background info on the video producer.

Click here

I guess the liberals will hate it and the conservatives will like it.

[J-Ri]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

I guess the liberals will hate it and the conservatives will like it.

I think you're wrong. Terrorists and communists will hate it and Americans will like it. There is nothing American about him. There is an article about him in the most recent issue of American Hunter magazine (which I've been meaning to type up and post), barack (no, I didn't miss the 'shift' key, he doesn't get enough of my respect to get a capital letter) voted FOR the D.C. gun ban (and other bans). The DC gun ban makes it illegal for a person to posess an operable riffle or shotgun, and illegal to posess ANY handgun, even for self defense in their own home. That means if someone breaks into their home, the homeowner gets arrested if they defend themselves with an "illegal" gun. At the same time, he has voted AGAINST tougher penalties for violent criminals.

I hope the race comes down to him and McCain, because that sunuvabitch has no chance of winning if people look at who he is rather than what he says, although he is a very good speaker.

[VR43000GT]

Obama is a nut job and has been from day one. Like said before, he is a great speaker, but is a nut case behind the superior linguistics.

[BNaylor]

Wow! Such hatred. .....

I guess if he gets elected we can always start an insurgency. Thought you guys would get a kick out of this pic. One of our insurgency crews supporting the Army's Counter-Insurgency program. I'm the one with the ski mask on. And yes those are real AK47s. After the U.S. Forces left the village (mock up) we attacked the convoy with several IEDs (simulated) and shot um up with small arms fire with the AKs (blanks, of course). Nonetheless, the training is very realistic.

[YogsVR4]

Obama is dumbass. Which puts him at the same level as McCain and just above Hillary.

[ericn1300]

Originally Posted by YogsVR4

Obama is dumbass. Which puts him at the same level as McCain and just above Hillary.

Ya gets what the machine sends your way, I voted for Ron Paul last Tuesday more as a protest vote than any real interest in his platform. He got the best results here in Idaho than any other state where he's been on the ballot, 29,749 votes to Obamas 23,988. McCain 87,367

[thrasher]

Originally Posted by BNaylor

Here's the latest controversial video on Obama. It was forwarded to me by a friend that has voted straight Democrat since voting age.

A Video Portrait of Barack Hussein Obama

Here is some background info on the video producer.

Click here

I guess the liberals will hate it and the conservatives will like it.

I'm what you would call a "liberal", and I loved it...I could watch that sort of thing all day. It's the people that actually take such videos seriously, regardless of political association, that scare me

[BNaylor]

Liberal is a rather ambiguous term. I know a lot of liberals that loved the video too, however, they were Clinton supporters.


List goes on and on. Another Obama gaffe.

The latest gaffe in the presidential campaign started during a Memorial Day event in New Mexico, where Obama talked about his uncle being among the US troops who liberated the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz. "And the story in our family was that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn't leave the house for six months," Obama said.

"Barack Obama's dubious claim is inconsistent with world history and demands an explanation," RNC spokesman Alex Conant said. "It was Soviet troops that liberated Auschwitz, so unless his uncle was serving in the Red Army, there's no way Obama's statement yesterday can be true. Obama's frequent exaggerations and outright distortions raise questions about his judgment and his readiness to lead as commander in chief."

Later yesterday, Obama's campaign said he simply named the wrong concentration camp.

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/ar...ing_auschwitz/

Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SV1sxq8mqvA


Now how dumb does this sound? Said while trying to court Veterans in Las Cruces, New Mexico?

OBAMA: On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in...in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong.