Universal Health Care? (US)

[Damien]

Originally Posted by thrasher

How is socialism a corrupt form of government? Many of the major European governments are socialist, and they seem to be doing pretty well. Not from a capitalist view, of course, but they do have significantly higher levels of happiness across the populace. Besides, your statement hinges on the fact that capitalist systems are inherently immune to corruption somehow, an interesting suggestion given that the basic ideology of capitalism values commodities over people. Such a system necessarily lends itself to corruption, as we see over and over in the United States government.



Actually, a majority of Americans support the federalization of the health care industry, which means that sooner or later, assuming our government is working representatively in any way, it's going to happen.

If you read what I typed you'd understand that I said capitalism is a form of corruption that isn't so up front.

For the second state, it's wrong. The idea is nice, but once again speaking about polls and what not, they're far too off and assuming they're correct I just did several reports on this so I assure my research is more indepth than yours and most don't. While there is a whole doctors union for this, the idea is still not supported enough by the people this really affects which are the people that do the job.

Have you ever experienced Universal Health Care? I have, it's nice as idea, and can possibly work in a smaller system, but as mentioned, for one there's no way to just switch.

[03cavPA]

Originally Posted by kublah

That's why they check to see if you have insurance before they even let you near the ER. And they'll sure throw you out of any other part of the hospital.

I'm not sure where you got that idea. We don't have guards at the entrance to the ER checking insurance papers. None of the hospitals I've worked for did. Once you're in the ER door, you're there. Like thrasher said, EMTALA says so.

Sure, there's a triage nurse and registration clerks, but they can't toss you out if you don't have insurance.

[kublah]

Originally Posted by thrasher

... Now inpatient stays are a whole different story.

That's more what I was getting at. I know they can't keep you out of the emergency room, but how good your insurance is has a lot to do with how long you get to stay when they're done, and unfortunately in some cases affects what actually happens inside the ER. I've heard it argued that good insurance will even get you into the ER much faster than someone without it, which I would really like to not believe.