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My son and I are replacing both upper and lower intake gaskets on his 2000 Buick 3.1 Engine. The instructions I printed out stated that the rocker arm bolts are to be torqued to 124 in. lbs plus an additional 30 degrees after the initial 124 in. lbs torque. My question is what does the 30 degrees mean. Would that be another 30 in. lbs on the second torque to equal a total of 154 in. lbs of torque?
Also how much torque for the valve covers? Thanks for your help. I am finding out that this job would not be my favorite job to do again. |
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Re: Torque question
Technically you are supposed to use a special tool called a torque angle wrench but this can be done guesstimatiing. It means exactly what it states. There are 360 degrees in a circle. After setting initial torque with the torque wrench, then adjust rocker arm bolt an extra 30 degrees envisioning a 360 degree circle.
Valve cover bolts are 89 in-lbs. Also, if using the revised GM LIM gasket set be sure to follow procedure below. If a FelPro kit use what they recommend. Quote:
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Thanks for your help. |
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Re: Torque question
You're welcome. I guess that is a good analogy. That is correct but don't use the torque wrench when giving it that extra 30 degrees. I use a regular straight handle type tool with the proper sized socket attached either 3/8" or 1/2" drive size. Then break the circle down to imagining 90 degrees and then look for half that which is 45 degrees. So the 30 degrees will be less than that. Good luck and let us know how it turns out.
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Re: Torque question
30 degrees would be equal to the 1 on an analog clock face. Once at the recommended torque value, reset your tool straight up at 12 o'clock, then turn it to 1 o'clock and you're done.
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Re: Torque question
Good suggestion Rich.
![]() What I check for when torquing the rocker arms bolts is first torque the rocker arm bolts to 124 in. lbs. ensuring that the pushrods are properly seated in their cups. Then listen for the sound of oil being compressed from the lifters. As a result you may need to make several passes to ensure that the proper torque has not been compromised by the lifters bleeding down. After this is done then torque the additional 30 degrees. That way you don't have to go back and do it again or get weird tappet sounds like many get after it is all put back together. ![]()
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Re: Torque question
Very good suggestion Bob. I do the same thing. I torque them down, let them set a few minutes and re-check. This will eliminate the chance of a lifter bleeding down on you, causing the infamous lifter tick at start-up on these engines.
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